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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    He's got his numbers and he cant prove Assad killed a 100k.....so the match of alleged wits is over. He never was in the game.
    I'm pretty sure, at this point, you've veered into a different thread. I questioned your claim herein.

    You claim that rebels have killed 50k based on a blog, which claims rebels have killed only perhaps 5k civilians among 50k kills.

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I'm pretty sure, at this point, you've veered into a different thread. I questioned your claim herein.

    You claim that rebels have killed 50k based on a blog, which claims rebels have killed only perhaps 5k civilians.
    I took care of that with the other link which were those older links we went thru before. Until you started trying to play like ya didn't know..... Btw the wiki link was the one you were shown before to. When the numbers weren't even this high. Which again back then as now you still tried to make the claim that Assad had killed 100k in civilian deaths. Which like we stated from the get go. You couldn't prove the 100K in civilian deaths. Nor could you prove Assad had done so.

    So like it stands.....regardless of the blog which was referenced, your other losing point. Then you were wrong. Just like you were last time.

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I took care of that with the other link which were those older links we went thru before. Until you started trying to play like ya didn't know..... Btw the wiki link was the one you were shown before to. When the numbers weren't even this high. Which again back then as now you still tried to make the claim that Assad had killed 100k in civilian deaths. Which like we stated from the get go. You couldn't prove the 100K in civilian deaths. Nor could you prove Assad had done so.

    So like it stands.....regardless of the blog which was referenced, your other losing point. Then you were wrong. Just like you were last time.
    At this point, I think you've totally abandoned this thread and have begun arguing about other threads.

    It's been an interesting exchange. Let me know if you decide to back up your claim with something other than a blogger.

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    At this point, I think you've totally abandoned this thread and have begun arguing about other threads.

    It's been an interesting exchange. Let me know if you decide to back up your claim with something other than a blogger.
    Yeah I don't think so.....let me know when you actually learn something about Syria and quit trying to play head games up here. As it stands now.....your the one that never produces anything over Syria and that would be in many threads. Nothing but deflection game trying to hang out to some point of an argument that don't mean much. So you don't have much credibility over this issue at all.

    Considering you don't know that much about Syria. Make sure ya start coming with something other than the words in your head.

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    How about this:

    Rebels (including AlN and other non-members of the largest national authority) have killed 35k combatants and 5k civilians. Yes, no? How would you adjust those numbers.


    Anyone?

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    How about this:

    Rebels (including AlN and other non-members of the largest national authority) have killed 35k combatants and 5k civilians. Yes, no? How would you adjust those numbers.


    Anyone?
    How about not and try again.

    Al Jazeera journalist Nir Rosen reported that many of the deaths reported daily by activists are in fact armed insurgents falsely presented as civilian deaths, but confirmed that real civilian deaths do occur on a regular basis.[18] A number of Middle East political analysts, including those from the Lebanese Al Akhbar newspaper, have also urged caution.

    This was later confirmed when in late May 2012, Rami Abdulrahman of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which is one of the opposition-affiliated groups counting the number of those killed in the uprising, stated that civilians who had taken up arms during the conflict were being counted under the category of "civilians"......snip~

    Syrian government
    26,853 soldiers and policemen killed
    17,564 militiamen killed
    1,000 government officials killed

    Hezbollah
    171178 killed

    Iranian IRGC
    13 killed.........


    20,49544,600 fighters killed*
    979 protesters killed
    10,00039,971 opposition fighters and supporters captured.....


    100,000 killed overall (June 2013 UN estimate)

    106,423120,000 killed overall (August 2013 SOHR estimate)
    80,348106,423 deaths documented by opposition (August 2013)**
    6421,548 foreign civilians killed......

    *Number possibly higher due to the opposition counting rebels that were not defectors as civilians......snip~

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...lution-28.html

    Maybe just 5k in Christians alone and not counting others.

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    How about not and try again.

    Al Jazeera journalist Nir Rosen reported that many of the deaths reported daily by activists are in fact armed insurgents falsely presented as civilian deaths, but confirmed that real civilian deaths do occur on a regular basis.[18] A number of Middle East political analysts, including those from the Lebanese Al Akhbar newspaper, have also urged caution.

    This was later confirmed when in late May 2012, Rami Abdulrahman of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which is one of the opposition-affiliated groups counting the number of those killed in the uprising, stated that civilians who had taken up arms during the conflict were being counted under the category of "civilians"......snip~

    Syrian government
    26,853 soldiers and policemen killed
    17,564 militiamen killed
    1,000 government officials killed

    Hezbollah
    171–178 killed

    Iranian IRGC
    13 killed.........


    20,495–44,600 fighters killed*
    979 protesters killed
    10,000–39,971 opposition fighters and supporters captured.....


    100,000 killed overall (June 2013 UN estimate)

    106,423–120,000 killed overall (August 2013 SOHR estimate)
    80,348–106,423 deaths documented by opposition (August 2013)**
    642–1,548 foreign civilians killed......

    *Number possibly higher due to the opposition counting rebels that were not defectors as civilians......snip~

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...lution-28.html

    Maybe just 5k in Christians alone and not counting others.

    Can you spare us the blogs references and just put some numbers up??

    I've offered (rebel kills):

    35k combatants
    5k civilians

    What are your numbers? Please, without the blog-spam.

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Can you spare us the blogs references and just put some numbers up??

    I've offered (rebel kills):

    35k combatants
    5k civilians

    What are your numbers? Please, without the blog-spam.
    I already told you that Wiki Link.....has the links to the sites. Can't say those are blogs. Moreover all is referenced by the real. Not what you see as made up.

    Let me know when ya get back to reality.

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I already told you that Wiki Link.....has the links to the sites. Can't say those are blogs. Moreover all is referenced by the real. Not what you see as made up.

    Let me know when ya get back to reality.
    Who has left reality?

    I'm asking you for numbers. Your opinion. I've offered my opinion. But all you can do is spam references to information that everyone knows and speculation by a blogger. Look, we understand that you've read wiki and that blog - OK! Great. We're not as proud of ourselves as you are, but I can't blame you for being excited about knowing the basic numbers and having seen a blog. That's GREAT! AWESOME!

    Now, can you give us the numbers of your own estimation/opinion (for rebel kills)?

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Who has left reality?

    I'm asking you for numbers. Your opinion. I've offered my opinion. But all you can do is spam references to information that everyone knows and speculation by a blogger. Look, we understand that you've read wiki and that blog - OK! Great. We're not as proud of ourselves as you are, but I can't blame you for being excited about knowing the basic numbers and having seen a blog. That's GREAT! AWESOME!

    Now, can you give us the numbers of your own estimation/opinion (for rebel kills)?

    Looks like you have.....Its not speculation when referenced. Learn about Journalism in the real world. Which clearly you don't even have a clue as to what is real with sources despite bloggers. Moreover you don't even have a clue as to why CBS carries that Blogger.

    Moreover you were given the numbers twice plus my opinion on that the Rebels are responsible for at minimum 44% all deaths. So you had your numbers. But I will give ya one more set. But now more than likely you will cry because the New Source is USA Today. So far anything on Syria. You have cried and whined about everybody else's New sources. While never having anything to back up what you are talking about.

    No one was asking for your opinion.....you were asked to produce a link that Showed Assad and Government forces were responsible for the 100k in civilian deaths like you stated.


    The Geneva-based U.N. human rights office said it has documented 92,901 killings between March 2011 and the end of April 2013. But the U.N. high commissioner for human rights, Navi Pillay, said it was impossible to provide an exact number, which could be far higher.

    The figure was up from nearly 60,000 through the end of November, recorded in an analysis released in January. Since then, U.N. officials had estimated higher numbers, most recently 80,000. The latest report adds more confirmed killings to the previous time period and an additional 27,000 between December and April.

    The figures trace the arc of violence, with the average monthly number of documented killings rising from around 1,000 per month in the summer of 2011 to an average of more than 5,000 per month since last July. At its height from July to October 2012, the number of killings rose above 6,000 per month.

    Among the victims were at least 6,561 children, including 1,729 children younger than 10.

    Government forces are shelling and launching aerial attacks on urban areas day in and day out," she said. "Opposition forces have also shelled residential areas, albeit using less fire-power, and there have been multiple bombings resulting in casualties in the heart of cities, especially Damascus.".

    The most documented killings were in rural Damascus, with 17,800 people dead. Next were Homs, with 16,400; Aleppo, 11,900; and Idlib, 10,300.....snip~

    U.N. says nearly 93,000 killed in Syrian conflict


    Homs is a major Christian city in Syria. With them alone over 16k. So much on your theory of the Rebels only Killed 5k of civilians. Perhaps you should look up what that population use to be.

    Now you have been given a thorough answer.....and you have no more outs! So catch me round on different topic on Syria. But when you do.....at least know what you are talking about First!

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