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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What do you mean ally. By my count there's at least as many people on this board calling bull**** on Syria as not.
    You and DaveFagan are quite a pair! hahaha

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Then you'll kindly remove your scumbag BS accusation and apologize.
    Sorry. It's not an accusation, you support the terrorists in this fight. Pull your support of the people we've been fighting for ten years, that have killed 5,000 US servicemen/women and you won't be a hypocrite any longer.

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It's not an accusation, you support the terrorists in this fight.
    No, I don't, despite your scumbag accusations.

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    No, I don't, despite your scumbag accusations.
    I see you still haven't come up with anything.....that's not surprising. You were already told to check Unicefs numbers and Red Cross. You are the failed to do so.

    So just face the facts....you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to Syria. You never had from the beginning. Which is why you try to use the one glove fits all for Democracy BS.

    First you cry and whine about the NY Times. Thn Right Wing Sources. Then Left Wing. Then anything outside the US. Then you have cried about CBS or where they reference some report to the UN. So all you really do is base your argument on whatever newsource that you can play with while whining about any newsource at the time.

    While never putting up anything to back anything you say about Syria.

    Time for you to go back to school. This time try reading **** for a change and not making **** up on the fly like you do.

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    At some point, are you gonna realize that your blogger, who claims 45k government and 5k civilians killed by rebels is an anti-Assad blog and likely vastly overestimating the number of military kills. Will you also understand that while 10-20% (perhaps) of rebel caused deaths are civilians, the vast majority of Assad's kills are civilians.

    Given the bias of the source, the rebels are probably responsible for ~30k military killed and 5-10k civilians. That leaves Assad with ~80k kills, mostly civilian. You cannot compare the civilian impact of the rebels and Assad.
    Other estimates range from 83,175 to 106,425. All of the totals include civilians, rebels, and security forces. Foreign civilians and fighters from both sides who have died are not included in the following figures:

    Syrian Network for Human Rights 83,598 killed[16] 15 March 2011 29 May 2013
    Next Century Foundation 75,816 killed[17] 1 June 2012 30 June 2013
    United Nations 100,000 killed[4] 15 March 2011 24 July 2013
    Syrian Observatory for Human Rights 106,423 killed[3] 15 March 2011 9 August 2013
    Center for Documentation of Violations 83,175 killed[1][2] 15 March 2011 30 August 2013 .....<<<<<these are all links to sites you can confirm numbers on the dead with.

    Al Jazeera journalist Nir Rosen reported that many of the deaths reported daily by activists are in fact armed insurgents falsely presented as civilian deaths, but confirmed that real civilian deaths do occur on a regular basis.[18] A number of Middle East political analysts, including those from the Lebanese Al Akhbar newspaper, have also urged caution.

    This was later confirmed when in late May 2012, Rami Abdulrahman of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which is one of the opposition-affiliated groups counting the number of those killed in the uprising, stated that civilians who had taken up arms during the conflict were being counted under the category of "civilians".[22][23][24]

    In May 2013, SOHR stated that at least 41,000 of those killed during the conflict were Alawites.[25]

    The Next Century Foundation offer an alternative analysis of casualty figures. Their calculations are made by using figures from the Center for Documentation of Violations in Syria (VDC), Syrian Shuhada (Syrian Martyrs), Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, Local Coordination Committees of Syria (LCC) and Damascus Centre for Human Rights from June 2012 to the present. Figures for civilian, rebel and government casualties are calculated separately and added together for an overall total.


    Pro-government combatants

    Casualties

    Syrian military and police 26,853 killed[3]
    Shabiha and National Defense Force 17,564 killed[3.....<<<<< again with Links.

    Opposition forces

    Due to the opposition's policy of counting rebel fighters that were not defectors as civilians[22][23][24][46] a comprehensive number of rebels killed in the conflict, thus far, has not been ascertained. In late November 2012, the opposition activist group SOHR estimated that at least 10,000 rebels had been killed, but noted the possibility of the figure being higher because the rebels, like the government, were lying about how many of their forces had died to make it look like they were winning.[47] In March 2013, SOHR stated that the actual number of killed rebels and government forces could be double the number they were already able to document.[48]

    The following tables provide examples of news reports which identify rebel casualties. The first table shows reports of rebel deaths for the period up to 9 August 2013, and those not included in SOHR's daily death tolls before and after 9 August 2013. The second table shows day-by-day reports of rebel deaths by SOHR after 9 August 2013.

    Lebanese Hezbollah 171[3]178[26] killed.....snip~

    Casualties of the Syrian civil war - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Set and match.

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    What are you claiming?

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    What are you claiming?
    That you got numbers that have links to them and that out of all killed that Assad hasn't killed over 100k. Like you stated.

    Which the same wiki link has all those referenced out. Including what other fighters have been killed that are Foreigners.

    Foreign civilians killed

    The higher figure of 1,377 Palestinians killed in the conflict includes several dozens of Palestinian combatants from both sides and not just civilians.[101] 700 of the killed Palestinians were residents of the Yarmouk Camp.

    Foreign opposition fighters killed

    3,198 foreign opposition fighters have been killed.[3] The nationalities of some are as follows: 86 Saudis,[103][93] 65[93]-193[104][93] Tunisians, 64 Libyans,[93][105] 52 Jordanians,[106][93][14] 47 Chechens,[107][108][109][110][111][93] 45 Palestinians,[14][112] 41 Kuwaitis,[113][114] 36 Lebanese,[103][115][93] 34 Egyptians,[116][14] 32 Azerbaijanis,[117][14] 20 Turks,[118][93] 18 Belgians,[119] 16 Dagestanis,[93][14][120] 15 Iraqis,[93][14][121] 14 Albanians,[122][123][124] 12 Afghans,[103][14] 10 Moroccans,[125][14] 8 Russians,[126] 7 Qataris,[103][14] 6 Swedes,[127][128][129] 5 Algerians,[125][103][130] 5 Bahrainis,[131] 4 Bosniaks,[132][133] 4 Dutch,[134] 4 Yemenis,[103] 3 Australians,[93] 3 Danes,[135][136] 3 Britons,[137][138] 3 Emiratis,[116] 3 Irishmen,[139] 3 Tajiks,[140] 2 Americans,[138][141] 2 Chinese,[128] 2 Frenchmen,[142][143] 2 Italians,[144][93] 2 Kyrgyz,[140] 2 Mauritanians,[145] 2 Somalis,[14] 2 Sudanese,[103] 1 Bulgarian,[116] 1 Canadian,[146] 1 Chadian,[103] 1 Finn,[147] 1 Spaniard[142] and 1 Uzbek.[116].....snip~

    Casualties of the Syrian civil war - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    What is your claim, in a sentence or two?

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    I'd agree that he'd lost before it began
    Last edited by AngryOldGuy; 08-31-13 at 08:14 PM.

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    mebbe a room in the Dungeon? Then you could really go at it properly?
    He's got his numbers and he cant prove Assad killed a 100k.....so the match of alleged wits is over. He never was in the game.

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