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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Prime Minister Cameron was probably hoping and expecting that a vote would see the majority of the Security Council support the resolution against Russian and Chinese opposition. That way, Russia and China would be isolated and the U.S./Western military operation would be promoted as enjoying international "legitimacy." What might have happened is that, at least for now, it became clear that the resolution would not command majority support. At least some nations that might be inclined to support it are probably waiting for the UN team to finish its work and report back on its findings. Of course, none of this precludes a military operation.
    It's domestic. His backbenchers and Labour aren't supporting him on the issue - at least until there's conclusive evidence.

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    At least Bush went to Congress

    Obama isn't even doing that

    Say what you want about the Iraq War (I personally despised that war), at least Bush asked for approval to use force. Only 9% of the country approves of this aggressive action against Syria. This could potentially get out of control and start WW3 REAL fast. Our interests in Syria are opposed to that of a unified China and Russia who are growing more powerful. They are starting to push back. We're arming *&^% Al Qaeda. Think about that.

    Bush was called a "reckless cowboy" and he had our allies at his back, congressional approval and also UN approval. The UN in this instance is intervening because of Obama's actions and telling the US to stand down. They need time.

    We have no business being in Syria. We had no business being in Libya. These are Obama's wars. We are seeing the fruits of Obama and Hillary's foreign policy failures. So now Obama is acting like a dictator, bypassing Congress and marching warships and planes to Syria. Under what authority does he have to do this? When was war declared? Did anyone get a vote on whether we should go to war with Syria or not?

    I don't really care what game you are trying to play here. Whatever it is, it's not working.

    Great points Bronson.

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Once again...that's congressional authority not the UN.
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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Biden said that was an impeachable offense.
    Biden was referring to Iran. As far as Bush and Iraq, he did go to the UN, but never fully got what he wanted/needed. 1441 did not actually authorise the use of force. He did secure congressional approval though.

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    It's domestic. His backbenchers and Labour aren't supporting him on the issue - at least until there's conclusive evidence.
    I'm aware of this, but wouldn't that have a bigger impact on his seeking Parliament's support (still on for tomorrow) than the UN resolution?

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Pete.....do ya got a link on that. Cameron wont throw in the towel that easy will he? Not with France puffing away.

    Ya know France called for action in Africa at the same time. What do you think about France always calling for action somewhere?
    Sigh your hatred for France is pathetic.

    BBC News - Syria crisis: MPs must vote twice before direct UK action

    The House of Commons will have to hold two votes before it can back "direct" military action in Syria, the government has announced.
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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Cameron already folding... no vote on giving the go ahead for an attack for now.. another massive political failure by Cameron.
    Citation Pete.

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Prime Minister Cameron was probably hoping and expecting that a vote would see the majority of the Security Council support the resolution against Russian and Chinese opposition. That way, Russia and China would be isolated and the U.S./Western military operation would be promoted as enjoying international "legitimacy." What might have happened is that, at least for now, it became clear that the resolution would not command majority support. At least some nations that might be inclined to support it are probably waiting for the UN team to finish its work and report back on its findings. Of course, none of this precludes a military operation.
    It would still have been illegitimate, it requires a consensus, not a simple majority.

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Libbos demanded a UN sanctionded international force 10 years ago.
    Ahh..I see...so we're going from a specific statement to some generalization based on your perception of events.
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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Well I'm hoping Obama lives up to that promise. I sure as **** don't think we should be in Syria. What's hilarious is Conservatives will try and bash Obama either way. The hawks are screaming for intervention on the right and the propaganda machine is saying if he does it he's a hypocrite.

    Like I said...I'm hoping he stays out of the quagmire.
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