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This thread is hilarious

Liberals are acting like it's still Hope and Change 2008 :lol:

The economic facts cannot be disputed. Obama's economic policies are a pathetic failure. He has failed all Americans. Blacks are suffering under this moron but that doesn't matter to Obama supporters. It's getting so bad that Obama supporters are starting to claim the American People had "unrealistic expectations" about Obama. You can see that mentality behind all the posts defending Obama. This is what we were promised with all the symbolism and pop culture icon branding of Obama in 2008:

Obama Promises The World - YouTube

Yep that Obama is such a clever speaker. Looking left to right reading his teleprompter. Well let's look at the results of his policies. The ME about to explode. An economy that is shrinking and a country that is on the decline.The guy is a used car salesmen. Not a Hope and Change messiah.
 
Got is, so business absorbs higher taxes and regulation costs rather than pass them on to the consumer which of course will always buy more when prices are higher? That is liberal logic and total ignorance of the facts. Cannot wait until you see the costs associated with your LLC and how you respond to them and if you feel the same why when your taxes go up and when you have to increase your expenses just to meet the qualifications of being a LLC

Again, what I put out for my company is what I put out. What I charge is what I charge. Sure, there's a link in terms of recouping investment and making a profit, but taxes haven't even entered into my thinking, other than to pay them.

But if enough people buy, regardless of taxes, I'll expand. ;)
 
Different issue, but if we spend less recklessly, and having insurance for more might help that, there is a possibility of lowering it. But, as I say, if that was your concern, you'd advocate for UHC. ;)

Yep but history shows no govt. social program i.e. Medicare and SS don't cost what they were supposed to cost and are burdened by waste, fraud, and abuse. There is no possibility of lowering it because there is no incentive to do so.
 
Again, what I put out for my company is what I put out. What I charge is what I charge. Sure, there's a link in terms of recouping investment and making a profit, but taxes haven't even entered into my thinking, other than to pay them.

But if enough people buy, regardless of taxes, I'll expand. ;)

They will when you have the investment and have to pay the taxes.
 
Yep but history shows no govt. social program i.e. Medicare and SS don't cost what they were supposed to cost and are burdened by waste, fraud, and abuse. There is no possibility of lowering it because there is no incentive to do so.

Suppose to? Where do you get this supposed cost. What something costs is what you throw on it. As the population ages, more need care. That relates to cost. As we poorly plan for this, and have too many using care who can't pay, costs go up. This is called problem solving. As I've tried to show you, this is not a business and these programs do an excellent job overall. Seniors are far better off today. That's not in doubt in any way.
 
Suppose to? Where do you get this supposed cost. What something costs is what you throw on it. As the population ages, more need care. That relates to cost. As we poorly plan for this, and have too many using care who can't pay, costs go up. This is called problem solving. As I've tried to show you, this is not a business and these programs do an excellent job overall. Seniors are far better off today. That's not in doubt in any way.


Projections are what they were supposed to cost.

I suggest you learn how to do projections when forming your LLC

Yes, as the population ages it needs more medical care thus the reason UHC continues to rise in costs. Think you are going to get the younger healthier people to enroll to pay for those increased costs? Again, waiting for why you cannot sell UHC in your own state?

How do you know seniors are far better off today since there is no alternative to Medicare. that is the liberal way, compare the current program to nothing and never give people an alternative.
 
Projections are what they were supposed to cost.

I suggest you learn how to do projections when forming your LLC

Yes, as the population ages it needs more medical care thus the reason UHC continues to rise in costs. Think you are going to get the younger healthier people to enroll to pay for those increased costs? Again, waiting for why you cannot sell UHC in your own state?

How do you know seniors are far better off today since there is no alternative to Medicare. that is the liberal way, compare the current program to nothing and never give people an alternative.

Projects are a projection based on expectations. If expectations change, so do projections.

And I know because it is measurable. They have better care, live longer, and don't suffer from the poverty they did before these programs.
 
LOL, cannot wait until you learn that you aren't nearly as smart as you think you are

Have no fear. I adapt rather rapidly. But then again, I don't claim to know everything. You do. :lamo
 
Projects are a projection based on expectations. If expectations change, so do projections.

And I know because it is measurable. They have better care, live longer, and don't suffer from the poverty they did before these programs.

Hate to break it to you, Boo, but regardless of the care you get you are going to die. You believe what you want to believe and when reality sinks in you still won't admit it. There is nothing the Federal Govt. can do with social programs that the states and local communities can't do better. You cannot sell your state on UHC therefore you want to have the Federa. Govt. force it on all of us. That is the most selfish kind of liberalism. Please stop trying to convince people that you really care because I have seen no evidence of that.
 
Have no fear. I adapt rather rapidly. But then again, I don't claim to know everything. You do. :lamo

I don' t know everything but have 66 yrs on this earth and 35 years in the business world, I know more than you.
 
I replied to your post - I didn't feel the need to seek out any others. I'm very glad it doesn't apply to what you posted to which I replied, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work for many other leftists around here that routinely note "Bush" did it.
....Bush got congress to authorize force in Afghanistan and Iraq; ofailure hasn't gotten such approval and probably won't - but then neither did BillyJeffClinton. I guess that's another "left" thing?

I see you didn't read my post #6. I clearly said I don't agree with those on the left that just blamed Bush for everything. Nice try though.
 
I don' t know everything but have 66 yrs on this earth and 35 years in the business world, I know more than you.

Depends. You could have learn the wrong lessons and repeated the same mistakes for 66 years. ;)
 
Hate to break it to you, Boo, but regardless of the care you get you are going to die. You believe what you want to believe and when reality sinks in you still won't admit it. There is nothing the Federal Govt. can do with social programs that the states and local communities can't do better. You cannot sell your state on UHC therefore you want to have the Federa. Govt. force it on all of us. That is the most selfish kind of liberalism. Please stop trying to convince people that you really care because I have seen no evidence of that.

no one suggested any one was immortal. It's clear that we all will die. But, there is something called quality of life, and that quality can be measured. Medicare improved that quality.
 
Yeah, tell you what, let's meet and you can tell me where I have gone wrong.

Come and see me any time you like. When you get in Iowa, let me know where to meet you at. I suggest Iowa City. Nice town.
 
Iowa that's 'fly-over' country Right?
 
no one suggested any one was immortal. It's clear that we all will die. But, there is something called quality of life, and that quality can be measured. Medicare improved that quality.

What is sad is that you believe the Federal Govt is the entity to provide that quality of care. Obviously nothing is going to change your mind although the question is if your ideas are so great why can't you sell it to your state where it can be closer to you to help control?
 
you said the republicans one problem is they place blame on one thing. what a maroon

ps. no, the majority on the right place blame on things that happened over time. FDR gets a ton of blame for instance.

LMAO they do??? Really so where is the blame for the debt that Republicans caused. Reagan for example??? The mess we are in now snowballed starting in the early 80's. The right never blames their guys just like the left never blames their guys. So please spare us with how the right blames stuff over time. They tend to blame Obama for everything if you dont believe me turn on Faux news they do it every night??
 
yer supposed to blame Boosch not Reagan didn't you read the talking points we sent you?
 
What is sad is that you believe the Federal Govt is the entity to provide that quality of care. Obviously nothing is going to change your mind although the question is if your ideas are so great why can't you sell it to your state where it can be closer to you to help control?

That's not what I said. Doctors, nurses, healthcare professionals provide the care. Medicare provided a payer. And way to make sure there were quality providers were available and paid.
 
LMAO they do??? Really so where is the blame for the debt that Republicans caused. Reagan for example??? The mess we are in now snowballed starting in the early 80's. The right never blames their guys just like the left never blames their guys. So please spare us with how the right blames stuff over time. They tend to blame Obama for everything if you dont believe me turn on Faux news they do it every night??

"fuax news"

ignore on.
 
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