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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Nope - definitely anybody who identifies the Founders who wrote the Constitution as collectivist control freaks is a resident of Wonderland.
    And your proclaiming that I am a resident of Wonderland has what exactly to do with your support of the initiation of aggression* against your fellow Americans? You seem to do a lot of personal attacking and not a whole lot of defending your position.


    * Violation of or damage to another person's body; or trespass upon, damage to, or taking of something owned by another.

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    And your proclaiming that I am a resident of Wonderland has what exactly to do with your support of the initiation of aggression* against your fellow Americans? You seem to do a lot of personal attacking and not a whole lot of defending your position.


    * Violation of or damage to another person's body; or trespass upon, damage to, or taking of something owned by another.
    How many times have we been through this before?

    Your definition is tortured and contrived and bears no relationship to the real world people live in as it includes normal activities such as enforcing routine laws that are Constitutional and the wish of the American people. This includes such things as eminent domain, taxation and civil rights laws. As such, your contrived and tortured 'principle' is ridiculous on its face.

    from your own post 592 in the thread on why Detroit went bankrupt

    You advocate that government force be used against peaceful people who have harmed no one.
    This is where you fall down the rabbit hole leaving reality behind. You seem to view simple enforcing laws that are constitutional as some sort of weird from of violence. Apparently, the person who breaks the law of the land, bears no responsibility for their actions in this upside down wonderland. Apparently the inevitable consequences of their actions are to be ignored and the mad hatter can just raise his middle finger at the rest of us and still be considered.... in your words ..... a peaceful person who has harmed no one. That is absurd on its face as a person who is breaking the law intended to protect others is indeed harming the very people the law was passed for in the first place.

    This has been pointed out to you again and again and again in thread after thread after thread.

    These law breakers that you place upon some libertarian altar to be worshipped are not peaceful people not harming no one. They have taken it upon themselves to be criminals and violate the law of the land passed by the duly elected representatives of the American people. It is they who initiated the actions which brought the law and punishment down upon themselves.
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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, can we now say that Obama policies are making it worse for the poor, and middle class yet...?
    If you wish to, but it may also have something to do with past teem pregnancies.

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    Kinda like the "by then i,ll be retired" eh?
    Problem for you is that I don't feign concern for those not willing to help themselves.
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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Problem for you is that I don't feign concern for those not willing to help themselves.
    And what is your concern level for tens of millions of people for whom their simply is no place for in the modern economy?
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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    If you wish to, but it may also have something to do with past teem pregnancies.
    The rate of births to single mothers in all races is up. Today 72% of births in the Black race are to single mothers, followed by 50% Hispanics, 38% White. The majority of these births are surprisingly occurring in women in their twenties and most of these kids end up thinking Uncle Sam is their daddy.

    Marriage: America

    When Johnson signed his Great Society into law, only 10% of the births were to unwed mothers. His policies were greatly expanded through other legislation under Carter, Clinton, and now Obama. In the last Census, it was discovered that most of these single mother households did not have any difficulty obtaining birth control. So the problem lies in a government through their policies that encourages people to avoid personal responsibility for their choices forcing those who are responsible through taxation to clean up the messes of others. Enough.

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    How many times have we been through this before?
    Yes, I know you very well, which is why I was able to predict with near certainty that whatever solution you propose would be based upon the initiation of aggression against society.

    These law breakers that you place upon some libertarian altar to be worshipped are not peaceful people not harming no one. They have taken it upon themselves to be criminals and violate the law of the land passed by the duly elected representatives of the American people. It is they who initiated the actions which brought the law and punishment down upon themselves.
    Yet another example of your willingness...desire...need..lust to initiate aggression* against those who disobey edicts but who are innocent of initiating aggression against others.

    * Violation of or damage to another person's body; or trespass upon, damage to, or taking of something owned by another.

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post



    Yet another example of your willingness...desire...need..lust to initiate aggression* against those who disobey edicts but who are innocent of initiating aggression against others.
    That is false. When a person takes it upon themselves to break the laws of the land as passed by the duly elected representatives of the American people, they are ones who are initiating the events which bring down the force of the law upon themselves.

    Your definition is tortured and contrived and bears no relationship to the real world people live in as it includes normal activities such as enforcing routine laws that are Constitutional and the wish of the American people. This includes such things as eminent domain, taxation and civil rights laws. As such, your contrived and tortured 'principle' is ridiculous on its face.

    from your own post 592 in the thread on why Detroit went bankrupt


    You advocate that government force be used against peaceful people who have harmed no one.

    This is where you fall down the rabbit hole leaving reality behind. You seem to view simple enforcing laws that are constitutional as some sort of weird from of violence. Apparently, the person who breaks the law of the land, bears no responsibility for their actions in this upside down wonderland. Apparently the inevitable consequences of their actions are to be ignored and the mad hatter can just raise his middle finger at the rest of us and still be considered.... in your words ..... a peaceful person who has harmed no one. That is absurd on its face as a person who is breaking the law intended to protect others is indeed harming the very people the law was passed for in the first place.

    This has been pointed out to you again and again and again in thread after thread after thread.

    These law breakers that you place upon some libertarian altar to be worshipped are not peaceful people not harming no one. They have taken it upon themselves to be criminals and violate the law of the land passed by the duly elected representatives of the American people. It is they who initiated the actions which brought the law and punishment down upon themselves. They are not peaceful nor innocent.
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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    That is false. When a person takes it upon themselves to break the laws of the land as passed by the duly elected representatives of the American people, they are ones who are initiating the events which bring down the force of the law upon themselves.
    You are simply proving my point. A person such as you describe is not initiating aggression* against anyone. It is the government that is the first one to employ aggression. That is precisely the policy I predicted you would support, and you have proven me to be correct. You support the initiation of aggression by the government.

    These law breakers that you place upon some libertarian altar to be worshipped are not peaceful people not harming no one. They have taken it upon themselves to be criminals and violate the law of the land passed by the duly elected representatives of the American people. It is they who initiated the actions which brought the law and punishment down upon themselves. They are not peaceful nor innocent.
    As I initially predicted, you are once again demonstrating your advocacy for the government being the first one to employ aggression*.

    * Violation of or damage to another person's body; or trespass upon, damage to, or taking of something owned by another.

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Ignore him

    This is the same guy that has been saying for 5 years it's "Bush's fault"

    Obama has wasted trillions of dollars. Robbed the middle class and the poor. His policies (especially Obamacare) are directly responsible for this misery. One only needs to look at the Reagan Recovery to see what a real recovery looks like.
    Correct, this so called "Recovery" is going to be seen for what it is, a smokescreen. My company shed 1 million in salary and benefits two weeks ago and we are tied to energy and infratstructure. The sad thing is there are so many relying on government compensation and/or disability and welfare, the days of fast growth are probably gone.

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