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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I simply live in the real world with real people who have a real government with real powers that flow from a real Constitution. Those who dwell in a imaginary wonderland of their own creation seem to have great trouble with that.
    We all live in the real world. We all have to coexist. We simply have differing ethics. I eschew the initiating of aggression* to achieve my ends; you embrace the initiation of aggression.

    * Violation of or damage to another person's body; or trespass upon, damage to, or taking of something owned by another.

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And what is your particular solution to a brave new world where productive work for tens of millions of citizens is no longer a viable option and they are simply unnecessary to the success of the nation and are increasingly looked at as a drag and a liability on the economy and the nation?
    You seem to be under the impression that I fancy myself some sort of God-like central planner. That's your style, not mine. I don't decide what people ought to do and then initiate aggression* against them in order to force them to obey my wishes.

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Like collecting taxes?
    Like using the constitutionally approved power of eminent domain to promote advancement of society and the public good?
    Like municipal or local zoning ordinances?
    That is acting stupidly, government can never do anything as well as private enterprise to wit
    the only time you'll ever see something that people don't want, something people wouldn't be willing to pay for, is when the government does it.
    The examples are endless.
    We will witness another of these examples if the ACA isn't stopped dead in its tracks.

    The real crime is that we allow this to continue.

    they are all accomplished through the initiations of aggression*

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    God-like central planner
    It is true Feddie we know the invisible hand is a hell of alot better
    at deciding what people really want than any community organizer in chief could ever be.


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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    But even in the America of 1775 there were successful people and there lives were destroyed by revolution.
    You are 100% correct - totally destroyed. One such story is that the second revolutionary war in 1812 bankrupted Thomas Jefferson. He was so broke he couldn't even leave anything to his daughter when he died. Congress voted not to pay his debts, and by the time his home State voted to pay off the debt it was too late - someone from the Continental Army had already bought his home (Monticello) and they couldn't give it to his daughter. She ended up being destitute. Very sad end to the life of a great American, IMHO.

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    Kinda like the "by then i,ll be retired" eh?
    yeah I can't wait to suck down that SSI from the bankrupt US Treasury
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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    We all live in the real world.
    Your views and beliefs have made it clear that you do not when they reject basic Constitutional powers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    You seem to be under the impression that I fancy myself some sort of God-like central planner.
    No. More of a Mad Hatter Wonderland resident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    That is acting stupidly, government can never do anything as well as private enterprise to wit
    the only time you'll ever see something that people don't want, something people wouldn't be willing to pay for, is when the government does it.
    The examples are endless.
    But which for some reason you are impotent to provide.

    And what does any of that have to do with the reality of tens of million of Americans having no future as productive workers and citizens?
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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And what does any of that have to do with the reality of tens of million of Americans having no future as productive workers and citizens?
    That is solely the fault of the mixed economy we find ourselves in.
    Those supposed "unproductive workers and citizens" sure as hell seem to be doing just fine! hell their biggest issue is obesity?
    As for other's people's supposed plight "Frankly My Dear, I Don't Give a Damn"
    I didn't get them in their situation and its not my job to get them out
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