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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    What I think? As much as you. Facts? Well they are different now aren't they. And Texas ranks low on healthcare. Education as well. Really, not a top tier state.
    That naturally amazes those that think that the southern border is secure.

    Oddly much the same crowd that favors PPACA, well at least the "good parts" of it.
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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    yanno what is irrational? The government telling the ER's they have to provide free medical care. That is where this all went off the rails. As for overrun, it got so bad here in Phoenix because the government allows us to be OVERRUN by illegal aliens (remember Holder filing suit against AZ?) nearly every last ER simply CLOSED in those 'parts of town'. I heard one cop joke that now when the cholos shoot each other they'll never make it to an ER because they have to ride all the way cross town to get to one.
    No I couldn't care any less than I already do. The government made this mess on purpose so they can 'ride to the rescue' if you think Osamacare is going to make things 'better' I have a beach front home I wanna sell you that is in Gila Bend
    Well, you can remove that requirement. It wasn't the government who wanted it in the first place. it was people reacting to people dying that led to it. Everything has a history, and it usually boils down to work by people not in the government leading to the change. it was pure grassroots movement that brought that change about.

    Feel free to try and get the support to reverse it.

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That naturally amazes those that think that the southern border is secure.

    Oddly much the same crowd that favors PPACA, well at least the "good parts" of it.
    Does anyone still believe we want it secure?

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Why should doctors and hospitals be forced to give away their services in 'Murica?
    Nevermind soon with socialized healthcare they will all become municipal workers
    Welcome to the DMV of healthcare (but only for those that can't afford to pay cash lol)
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    oh crud will the private practice of medicine will be illegal?
    Guess we'll all have to go to another country?
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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Does anyone still believe we want it secure?
    only tens upon tens of millions of Americans want it CLOSED

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Does anyone still believe we want it secure?
    I am definitely part of anyone and possibly even part of we; so yes on both counts. Now there are quite a few those that prefer to keep labor costs low by "accidentally" hiring those with fake papers, but they grease the palms of politicians to keep that well hushed up.

    We have 20K border patrol agents to try to secure 2% (at most) of the nation leaving 5K ICE agents to man the rest of the nation. Doing the math, rather quickly, that comes to one ICE agent for every 2,200 illegal aliens, or to put that another way - that is like using the total current number of police officers in Baltimore, MD and Boston, MA combined to patrol 98% of the entire nation. Is that federal immigration law enforcement efficiency or what? Those guys must be BUSY!

    EDIT: If each of the 5,000 ICE agents caught and deported one illegal alien each work day (no vacation time) it would take 8.8 years to deport all 11 million of them.
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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    only tens upon tens of millions of Americans want it CLOSED
    Not anyone with a lobbyist or money.

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I am definitely part of anyone and possibly even part of we; so yes on both counts. Now there are quite a few those that prefer to keep labor costs low by "accidentally" hiring those with fake papers, but they grease the palms of politicians to keep that well hushed up.

    We have 20K border patrol agents to try to secure 2% (at most) of the nation leaving 5K ICE agents to man the rest of the nation. Doing the math, rather quickly, that comes to one ICE agent for every 2,200 illegal aliens, or to put that another way - that is like using the total current number of police officers in Baltimore, MD and Boston, MA combined to patrol 98% of the entire nation. Is that federal immigration law enforcement efficiency or what? Those guys must be BUSY!

    EDIT: If each of the 5,000 ICE agents caught and deported one illegal alien each work day (no vacation time) it would take 8.8 years to deport all 11 million of them.
    If we, the nation as a whole, wanted it closed, it would be. I suggest that money, those who provide jobs, don't want it closed, so it will not be. 10 years from now we'll still be having the same debate, complete with the same posturing, but no real change will occur.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If we, the nation as a whole, wanted it closed, it would be. I suggest that money, those who provide jobs, don't want it closed, so it will not be. 10 years from now we'll still be having the same debate, complete with the same posturing, but no real change will occur.
    That, unfortunately, is true of many of our federal programs, they are carefully designed to allow the need for them to continue or increase (mostly the latter) so that we the sheeple get fleeced forever yet nothing of consequence actually changes. Every election cycle we are reminded of the loafty goals of our annointed federal representatives, each assuring us that this next term will show us great progress on all manner of ills facing us and with plenty of time leftover for more progress on many fronts. Rinse and repeat...
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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