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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    There is a difference between 'spin', and outright lying...Obama is a liar.
    No, Bush is a liar. Obama is merely a man that does not poses enough back-bone to stand up to Liars.

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    We are living under the policy of NO.
    That's Nobama heh
    yup five years into his administration and he's still not responsible for anything
    I think that's freakin' amazing
    don't you?
    Heck when he's not rolling back some part of the ACA he's still trying to sell it.

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    I only wish we could have said NO freaking way to ol Barry
    No socialised healthcare
    No GM bail out
    No solyndra
    No 6 trillion in debt
    No Benghazi
    No Arab spring
    No ban on drilling in the Gulf
    No stoppage of the keystone pipeline
    No real unemployment at an actual rate of 15~17%
    No four dollar a gallon gasoline
    No attempt at starting a race war
    No multi-meellin dollar vacations
    No amnesty for illegals
    no No NO!
    New Hope for the Wretched era

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    #1 Why would you say this reflects on Obama? 2005 was Pre Recession. The recession began well before Obama took office and many believe that we are still feeling it's effects. Comparing current data to 2005 is completely worthless.

    #2 Why would you call the policies currently implemented, "Obama's Policy's"? How many of Obama's policies have actually been implemented?
    Aside from a stimulus and a tax cut, the only significant policy that Obama has managed to get past the "Party of NO" is O'Romney-Care.
    A republican policy, regardless of current opinions.

    Our government has been frozen for 6 years.
    Least productive Congress of all American History.
    More nominees filibustered than all previous Presidents combined.
    More vacant positions than any time in recorded history.

    We are not living under Obama's policies. We are living under the policy of NO.

    #3 See Number 1
    Is that you Larry O'Donnell?

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    The bottom line, is that after 5 years of Obama, and his policies in place, the first two with a virtual monopoly on congress, he got what he wanted. Too bad it wasn't anything that would benefit the people that voted for him...

    "The party of No"... I hope they keep right on saying no, not only no, but HELL NO! progressive policies are destructive to this nation, and I have no desire to see them passed.
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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    I only wish we could have said NO freaking way to ol Barry
    No socialised healthcare - Yeah, let them die. Good man you are.

    No GM bail out - Yeah, America does not need the car industry. Let other Nations do it. (Wasn't this a great success?)

    No solyndra - Agreed, however, it was worth a try. Too bad it was a bad choice.

    No 6 trillion in debt - You do understand that the deficit is going down from what Obama received, correct? The man is good, but he cant walk on water.

    No Benghazi - laugh, way to politicize a tragedy.

    No Arab spring - Yeah, down with democracy! (not)

    No ban on drilling in the Gulf - GRR! Why don't you drill in your back yard instead of mine.

    No stoppage of the keystone pipeline - And this was a bad thing? Making money for Canada and big oil! woot!

    No real unemployment at an... - Yeah, nice how you can even blame Obama for a recession that began before he ran for office. Do you live in Louisiana?

    No four dollar a gallon gasoline - Your talking about the 4 dollar gas under Bush right? As in the first time is was $4 dollars.

    No attempt at starting a race war - Then tell the GOP to stop doing it. All Obama did was be half black. They did the rest.

    No multi-meellin dollar vacations - Ahh, your a Bachman fan. You do know this is all BS right? Do you know that Bush took over 4 times as many vacations?

    No amnesty for illegals - What would you do with them? Pack all 11 million in trains? Ovens? Make lamp shades out of their skin?

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    ya really need to re-evaluate that lean click the commie box eh?

    oh no Osambo has gotten everything he's wanted and the results are all so predictable
    so much so in fact that only a child or a socialist can't see what's round the next bend in the road?
    New Hope for the Wretched era

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Is that you Larry O'Donnell?

    Lean: Independent
    OK, fair enough under the circumstances, however...

    -I am against all forms of abortion (except in cases of rape, imminent danger to the mother, or other extreme situations)
    -I am against gay marriage (but I am for gay rights and civil unions.)
    -I am for making people do hard physical labor to receive Unemployment checks after the 3rd month.
    -I do believe in preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons... at ANY COST.
    -I do believe in requiring all future citizens to be proficient at a 3rd grade level in the English Language.

    Still think I should be a Liberal or that I do not have a damn good reason for being an Independent?
    I support the Democrats in most issues because they are BY FAR the lesser of 2 evils, and many of their policies do a lot of good.

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    I agree with you on everything but the Iran thing
    and the 3rd grade Engrlish is silly they are all going to get amnesty and chant La Raza
    and what's the point of drawing 99 weeks of unemployment if you have to do 'hard physical labor' that sound like work
    and if you are such a racist bigot homophobe why cain't you click the Conservative box? :P

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    No socialised healthcare - Yeah, let them die. Good man you are.
    you appear to be confusing intent with means.

    No GM bail out - Yeah, America does not need the car industry. Let other Nations do it. (Wasn't this a great success?)
    No, it was not. Now Detroit is a bankrupt, failing, nigh-on-3rd-world-city, where packs of wild dogs apparently exercise as much or more power than the city government. Furthermore, when you are talking of "the car industry" in America - it is the American companies who are building their cars in Mexico. Foreign companies (Mercedes, Toyota) are building their cars here.

    No solyndra - Agreed, however, it was worth a try. Too bad it was a bad choice.
    The government is an atrocious venture capitalist. It was never worth a try for them to attempt to pick winners and losers in the market place.

    No 6 trillion in debt - You do understand that the deficit is going down from what Obama received, correct? The man is good, but he cant walk on water.
    No, it is not. The last deficit for which Bush takes full credit was $538 Bn, a level that Obama has yet to reach. The 2009 Deficit, which you are attempting to place solely on Bush, includes major Obama initiatives, such as the so-called Stimulus

    No Benghazi - laugh, way to politicize a tragedy.
    A failure of leadership that leaves an ambassador dead is a failure of leadership that leaves an ambassador dead. Would you accuse the family and friends of the dead who want answers of politicizing a tragedy?

    No Arab spring - Yeah, down with democracy! (not)
    Let's see. Libya, anocracy. Egypt, military rule. Syria, bloody civil war.... where, exactly, is the democracy?

    No ban on drilling in the Gulf - GRR! Why don't you drill in your back yard instead of mine.
    We are trying to. It seems that someone (and by "someone", I mean our child-president) has engaged in such an utterly feckless foreign policy that the region that supplies worlds' major oil market is now at least partly aflame and wholly under threat. We need an alternative - and a real alternative, one that works. Not moss or solyndra. We need an alternative source for oil.

    No stoppage of the keystone pipeline - And this was a bad thing? Making money for Canada and big oil! woot!
    Yeah. That's why the unions wanted it. because they want to send money to Canada. Hey, whatever, unemployment is at a historically low point right now, so we can afford to pass on a bunch of above-average income blue collar jobs, right?

    No real unemployment at an... - Yeah, nice how you can even blame Obama for a recession that began before he ran for office. Do you live in Louisiana?
    No one blames Obama for the recession. We blame him for choking off a recovery.



    The recession ended in the summer of 2009. We are in the Recovery Summer, remember?

    No four dollar a gallon gasoline - Your talking about the 4 dollar gas under Bush right? As in the first time is was $4 dollars.
    and is high now not least due to threats to the supply chain (see above on the Middle East).

    No attempt at starting a race war - Then tell the GOP to stop doing it. All Obama did was be half black. They did the rest.
    On the contrary, Republicans were (naively, it turned out) generally hopeful that at least Obama would reduce charges that America was evil, America was racist, and the racial divisions. He chose not to, but rather to play to those divisions either because he viewed it as an effective political tactic or (more likely) sitting in Jeremiah Wright's church for a decade and a half actually had an impact on him.

    No multi-meellin dollar vacations - Ahh, your a Bachman fan. You do know this is all BS right? Do you know that Bush took over 4 times as many vacations?
    To his ranch. Which cost us the price of fuel for AF1, and which was basically a southern white house. Not Hawaii, or Martha's Vinyard, or France; and Bush didn't go off on lavish vacations in the middle of this level of real unemployment and diminished median family incomes, either.

    No amnesty for illegals - What would you do with them? Pack all 11 million in trains? Ovens? Make lamp shades out of their skin?
    Well I wouldn't use them to attack strawmen. What most conservatives support is enforcing E-Verify. Illegals come here for the jobs. Make the jobs extremely difficult for illegals to get, and you'll get reduced supply. At the same time, actually attempt to secure the southern border.

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    OK, fair enough under the circumstances, however...

    -I am against all forms of abortion (except in cases of rape, imminent danger to the mother, or other extreme situations)
    -I am against gay marriage (but I am for gay rights and civil unions.)
    -I am for making people do hard physical labor to receive Unemployment checks after the 3rd month.
    -I do believe in preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons... at ANY COST.
    -I do believe in requiring all future citizens to be proficient at a 3rd grade level in the English Language.

    Still think I should be a Liberal or that I do not have a damn good reason for being an Independent?
    I support the Democrats in most issues because they are BY FAR the lesser of 2 evils, and many of their policies do a lot of good.
    Ok, I can see it...But just know that the rhetorical flourishes you use come straight out of liberal tactic, and are designed to stifle debate through insult, rather than promote civil discussion. I don't agree that today's democrat is the lessor of 2 evils, I think democrats today have been co opted by progressives, and socialist in nature short term thinkers that have no ability to see the destructive nature of their 'feel good' policies for future generations...But, if you are an open mind, with the ability to see past the usual talking point pap, then I say welcome. If you are just another in a long line of antagonists in here to do little more than insult, and cause chaos, then we can end our discussions right here....I hope you are of the first I described.
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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