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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    I do, but only when absolutely necessary.

    No matter how you look at it, when the government hires somebody or spends money, it does so at a cost to the economy somewhere along the line. At best, it's a push. But when the cost of getting that dollar spent to where it's going or that employee hired is figured in along fraud, waste and abuse it's not even a push.

    If government spending could create real sustainable, needed jobs and government spending could produce prosperity, everybody in the world would be rich.
    Sure, it does it at a cost. Would not suggest otherwise. But when you tell government they are responsible for employment, they will hire people or give money to hire people. I hope this is clear.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hmmm? what's that?.....You sure you are talking to the right person?

    If you are talking about government spending more money in some convoluted stimulus, NO I don't want government to do that....I'd like to see them exit stage left, and allow business to get busy without having to pay tribute to Lord Obama and the progressive pukes.
    Business is not hamstrung. That's just rhetoric to keep you rabid. I've linked information on how little regulations and taxes effect business.

    But, if you argue that governmnet is responsible for employment, stimulus and convoluted efforts is what you will get.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Business is not hamstrung. That's just rhetoric to keep you rabid. I've linked information on how little regulations and taxes effect business.

    But, if you argue that governmnet is responsible for employment, stimulus and convoluted efforts is what you will get.
    So you think the govt. driving up costs on private business has no affect on employment? What business did you run again? Any idea what the normal cost is to hire and yes even fire people?

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So you think the govt. driving up costs on private business has no affect on employment? What business did you run again? Any idea what the normal cost is to hire and yes even fire people?
    Drive up here and lowers it there. Closes this and opens that. As the links showed, its a push. Little overall effect at all.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    your post I quoted was full of hypocrisy.

    "THE problem on the right, you get data and than try to place blame on ONE THING"

    what a maroon! probably too dense to even see it.
    Are you saying the majority of the right doesn't blame Obama for everything?

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Simple literacy test and if your dependent on Government in any way you lose your right to vote.

    Look where idiot voters have gotten us.

    Allowing the least of our society to steer this Country into the ground.

    Its NOT going to end well and especially for the people who are sucseptable to political manipulation and Democrat false narratives and plattitudes.
    I have an even better idea.
    Why don't we only allow white males to vote.
    Or even better... Let's only allow the top 1% of income earners to vote.

    /Sarcasm off

    If you think the poor are controlling this country then maybe it is you that do not deserve to vote.

    Also the ones being manipulated so extensively are the bible thumpers and the lesser educated which make up the majority of the Republican voter base.

    A nice little head exploding fact for you is that the majority of the people on Welfare are WHITE.
    And the majority of those white people on welfare are Republican.

    So yeah, go ahead... push for welfare recipients to not be able to vote. See how fast your party disappears.

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You shouldn't. But that's what happens when you say government is responsible for unemployment.
    When the government sucks money out of the economy and people are threatened with the loss of their property and worse if they don't pay up, then yes, the government is responsible. When the government puts so many hurdles in front of a business, with so many added expenses that it become like a protection racket, then yes, the government is responsible.

    Who else??

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You shouldn't. But that's what happens when you say government is responsible for unemployment.
    It is not the same thing. The government encourages job losses in changing market conditions i.e. adding new laws such as NAFTA, GATT, etc that sent a lot of jobs overseas. While the government is not responsible for creating new jobs, it also should not engage in policies intended at destroying existing jobs without a compelling public interest like shutting down toxic polluters for instance.

    It doesn't matter that we have an effective zero percent interest rate if people are not willing to borrow hundred of millions of dollars to build or retrofit a factory if there is no reasonable expectation that whatever you produce with that factory cannot be produced cheaper overseas and imported into the US at a lower cost than producing it domestically. We are engaged in policies that subsidize the stock market to disguise horrible decisions rather than acknowledge those decisions were horrible when the vast majority of people need wages not dividends to survive and prosper.

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    A nice little head exploding fact for you is that the majority of the people on Welfare are WHITE.
    Here's a fact for you. Proportionately, the number of people on welfare is overwhelmingly Black. You do not do yourself or your cause any favors by trying to distort reality. Characteristics and Financial Circumstances of TANF Recipients, Fiscal Year 2010 | Office of Family Assistance | Administration for Children and Families

    And the majority of those white people on welfare are Republican.
    And where did you get this stat from? Do you have a reliable link?

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    re: Report shows how recession hit families [W:391, 502]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Are you saying the majority of the right doesn't blame Obama for everything?
    you said the republicans one problem is they place blame on one thing. what a maroon

    ps. no, the majority on the right place blame on things that happened over time. FDR gets a ton of blame for instance.

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