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    Re: Navy ready to launch first strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin' Canell .....actually according to the two members of Congress that were on Face the Nation. They believe Obama can start whatever process and then Congress can take it from there.
    Evening, MMC.
    One question though - can Congress cancel Obama's decision?

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    Re: Navy ready to launch first strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    l remember hiroshima
    Remember it as in lived at that time or simply remember what you read/heard about it?

    A cruise missle (as used in Iraq) has a far different blast radius and is not a nuclear weapon.
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    Re: Navy ready to launch first strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    When you are spending more than the next 17 nations, you better have a little suthin up your sleeve.
    HARM is actually pretty cheap, and the original technology is from the Vietnam era. If you have ever seen Flight of the Intruder, they show the A-6's using the precursor, the SHRIKE.
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    Re: Navy ready to launch first strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I don't think our missiles will ever have a chance to find out. Not at 820k per Tomahawk


    Russia Steps Up Missile Sales to Syria

    Not only will Russia make good on delivering advanced S-300 anti-missile batteries and surface-to-air missiles to Syrian President Bashar Assad's regime, it has also provided anti-ship cruise missiles with advanced guidance systems, the New York Times reported on Thursday.

    According to the report, an upgraded version of the Yakhont anti-ship missiles is equipped with more advanced radar systems that will effectively prevent any foreign military intervention in Syria.

    "It enables the regime to deter foreign forces looking to supply the opposition from sea or from undertaking a more active role if a no-fly zone or shipping embargo were to be declared at some point," the Times quoted IHS Jane's International Defense Review editor-in-chief Nick Brown. "It's a real ship killer."

    Meanwhile, the Wall Street Journal reported that Russia deployed at least a dozen warships to guard its naval base at Syria's Tartus port and provide further deterrence to any foreign intervention in the country's civil war.....snip~

    Russia Steps Up Missile Sales to Syria - Inside Israel - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com

    Five Things You Should Know About Syria And Russia’s S-300 Missile System


    An S-300 air-defense system seen during a large-scale military exercise in Kazakhstan in 2011

    What are the capabilities of the S-300 system?

    The S-300 missile system is designed to shoot down aircraft and missiles at a range of 5-to-150 kilometers. That gives it the ability to destroy not only attackers in Syrian airspace but also any attackers inside Israel.

    It can track and strike multiple targets simultaneously at altitudes ranging from 10 meters to 27,000 meters.

    "The S-300 is Russia's top-of-the-range air-defense system," says Robert Hewson, the London-based editor of "IHS Jane's Air-Launched Weapons." "It is a surface-to-air missile system that's capable of shooting down any modern combat aircraft or missiles, including cruise missiles. In a way, it is the Russian equivalent to the U.S. Patriot system. And what it does for Syria is it adds a whole new level of capability on top of the existing Syrian air defenses. Syria already has a lot of Russian [surface-to-air] missiles, but the S-300 would be the most advanced."

    How much would a deployed S-300 system complicate a decision by the international community to create no-fly zones in Syria?

    The deployment of the S-300 system would greatly complicate any such measures in Syria.


    A launch of the S-300 air-defense system

    Could foreign powers find ways to circumvent the S-300 system if it were deployed?

    One way to circumvent air-defense systems is to try to disrupt their operations through electronic techniques rather than attack them directly. But Elleman says it is an open question whether the S-300 could be blocked this way.

    "Electronic warfare and spoofing of systems in quite common," he says, "but one must keep in mind that the S-300 is a very sophisticated piece of weaponry. And I am not convinced that the West, Israel, or Turkey could reliably neutralize the system without taking some kind of kinetic action -- in other words, going after some of the radar or some of the interceptors [with force]. So, in terms of circumventing, I think it would be very difficult and very risky." .....snip~

    Five Things You Should Know About Syria And Russia

    Which doesn't count the Russian's Destroyers that can launch a Cruise missile to take out another. Or any other Anti Missile defense systems. Nor does it count the Mig 35 or 47. Which is alleged to be able to drop in from above the earth's atmosphere.

    Report: Russia Sent Syria Super-Advanced S-300 Missiles

    A report Thursday said that Russia has supplied Syria with advanced S-300 missiles, and has sent advisers to help Syria run the system.

    Russian warships that have reached waters off Syria in recent days were carrying, among other things, Russian technical advisors who will help the Syrians set up an array of S-300 missiles Damascus has received in recent weeks, a report in the London-based Arabic language Al Quds-Al Arabi said Thursday. Citing sources in Syria and Russia, the paper said that Moscow sees a Western attack on Syria as a “red line” that it will not tolerate.

    Along with the missiles, the report says that Russia has installed advanced radar systems in all key Syrian military and industrial installations. The radar system also covers areas north and south of Syria, where it will be able to detect movement of troops or aircraft towards the Syrian border. The radar targets include much of Israel, as well as the Incirlik military base in Turkey, which is used by NATO.

    The S-300 system is regarded as one of the most potent anti-aircraft missile systems available. The system's radar is able to simultaneously track up to 100 targets while engaging up to 12. Deployment time for the S-300 is five minutes, and they have a very long life span, with no maintenance needed.....snip~

    Report: Russia Sent Syria Advanced S-300 Missiles - Defense/Security - News - Israel National News
    They also probably have a couple hundred of the stingers stolen in the Lybian raid..

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    Re: Navy ready to launch first strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    They also probably have a couple hundred of the stingers stolen in the Lybian raid..
    The Stinger is a SAM. It is useless against cruise missiles...
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    Re: Navy ready to launch first strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Evening, MMC.
    One question though - can Congress cancel Obama's decision?
    I think they can.....the question is. Would they. Both Neo Cons and Neo Libs want this. Both sides think they can cut like a knife. It's not going to work with Syria. Like it did with Libya.

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    Re: Navy ready to launch first strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    They also probably have a couple hundred of the stingers stolen in the Lybian raid..
    Worse.....to protect those. They have SA 8s and Russian S 17s Anti missile defense. All to work with each other. Hence the only option they were looking at. Which is to try and affect them electronically. Again which they don't even know if it is possible. Which doesn't include any Syria Air Force. Nor any Syrian Cruise Missiles.

    Nor any hand helds or Man Pads.

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    Re: Navy ready to launch first strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The Stinger is a SAM. It is useless against cruise missiles...
    You did take in account that the S 300 is mobile.....Right? Plus their Cruise Missiles would have something to say to, don't you think?


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    Re: Navy ready to launch first strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    You did take in account that the S 300 is mobile.....Right? Plus their Cruise Missiles would have something to say to, don't you think?
    Is the S3000 a Stinger? Then I was not talking about that. That is why I quoted the post I responded to and mentioned the weapon system I was talking about...
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    Re: Navy ready to launch first strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Is the S3000 a Stinger? Then I was not talking about that. That is why I quoted the post I responded to and mentioned the weapon system I was talking about...
    Well, you did bring up the HARM and SHRIKE, Correct? Why do you think I posted the Pic of the S 300 again? Then said what I said?

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