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    Re: Navy ready to launch first strike on Syria

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    Out of interest have you served in a combat zone?
    I have... an inner city gang infested high school... but that combat zone was a tad different to Afghanistan.
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    Re: Navy ready to launch first strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Congressional approval?
    The current president thinks he is above such things. (ie, the LAW)

    I have no doubt those that protested the congressional approved (both left and right) invasion of Iraq will try to make comparisons, but of course, Iraq was approved by both sides, and both sides spouted off about them having WMDs.

    Big difference between actually going through the motions and have congress approve what they are supposed to approve, vs just attacking another nation. But I doubt many Obama supporters will see the difference or be mad about it.
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    Re: Navy ready to launch first strike on Syria

    this is a mess ... I understand that we have only one "friend" in Syria, the Free Syrian Army, and we haven't given him much support, so he's probably not even a major player ... I just saw an interview with Richard Engels, one of the few journalists I respect, and he listed the different outcomes, and none of them are very good ... he thinks Syria will end up fragmented, with different groups (including Al-Queada) controlling different parts of the country ... it's what you get with Empire building ... we've had people warning us about that since the Spanish-American War ... I keep hearing that Thursday is the day for the surprise hit ...

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    Re: Navy ready to launch first strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Wasn't it the USA that was actually attacked? Why wouldn't we do the majority of the work?
    Because the treaty doesn't say that. At one time we had almost 500,000 troops in Europe prepared to fight off the Russians and the Warsaw Pact. We placed no conditions on the other treaty members. They got attacked, we fought with them and honestly, until Reagan came along, probably would have gotten whipped right there with them.
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    Re: Navy ready to launch first strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Because the treaty doesn't say that. At one time we had almost 500,000 troops in Europe prepared to fight off the Russians and the Warsaw Pact. We placed no conditions on the other treaty members. They got attacked, we fought with them and honestly, until Reagan came along, probably would have gotten whipped right there with them.
    and yet the Russians left and your bases remain, but of course the US isn't getting anything out of it right?
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    Re: Navy ready to launch first strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    this is a mess ... I understand that we have only one "friend" in Syria, the Free Syrian Army, and we haven't given him much support, so he's probably not even a major player ... I just saw an interview with Richard Engels, one of the few journalists I respect, and he listed the different outcomes, and none of them are very good ... he thinks Syria will end up fragmented, with different groups (including Al-Queada) controlling different parts of the country ... it's what you get with Empire building ... we've had people warning us about that since the Spanish-American War ... I keep hearing that Thursday is the day for the surprise hit ...
    I agree, it is a mess because the secularists were mostly annihilated in the early going...

    If we know the surprise is Thursday, it won't be much of a surprise, and if chemical weapons were used, they most likely won't be at the previous location...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Navy ready to launch first strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Obviously doesn't compare to the numbers the US put in or even the UK but for a nation like Germany given its history it was a big step and caused a lot of controversy internally.
    Internal political pressure is their politicians problem. A treaty works both ways or needs to be trashed. Providing just enough help to be able to say you helped, isn't meeting the spirit or intent of the treaty.
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    Re: Navy ready to launch first strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Internal political pressure is their politicians problem. A treaty works both ways or needs to be trashed. Providing just enough help to be able to say you helped, isn't meeting the spirit or intent of the treaty.
    tell that to the families of the 1100 dead collation soldiers and police forces.
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    Re: Navy ready to launch first strike on Syria

    So now you say those who serve like Gore and Kerry are Chickenhawks. Got it.

    And how many different wings of the republican party are attacking whatever Obama does.

    I won't bother you anymore since you're part of America weakening the POTUS just for the sake of it.

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    Well.....truthfully you can still call Kerry a Chicken hawk.....moreover the Neo Lib is the one that was writing Legislation for nation building in Egypt and Afghanistan. Then getting Johnny Quest McCain to sign along with him.

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    Re: Navy ready to launch first strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    The current president thinks he is above such things. (ie, the LAW)

    I have no doubt those that protested the congressional approved (both left and right) invasion of Iraq will try to make comparisons, but of course, Iraq was approved by both sides, and both sides spouted off about them having WMDs.

    Big difference between actually going through the motions and have congress approve what they are supposed to approve, vs just attacking another nation. But I doubt many Obama supporters will see the difference or be mad about it.

    Well I am not an Obama supporter but am mad about it as I was in Feb/Mar 2003. I listened to the voices that were saying all along that there wasn't WMD in Iraq, that Iraq wasn't involved in 9/11, that Iraq didn't have a smoking gun and couldn't produce a mushroom cloud over a US city. But those rational voices were drowned out by the, whoops and hollers and the smell of blood and hysteria by the, the vast majority of my countrymen. Hopefully the masses have learned a lesson.

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