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    Re: Senior Administration Official: ‘Very Little Doubt’ Assad Regime Behind Alleged C

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, they really aren't...Look, Obama doesn't have the fortitude to do what is necessary in Syria, nor does he, or his ideology indicate that he would support the right side in the conflict. What do we gain by getting involved? Syria was not a friend before this uprising, nor will they be after.

    If all we are going to do is launch a barrage of Tomahawks at Syria, and not take out their air capabilities, or damage Assad in any way to continue to kill his own people, then we might as well send a strongly worded letter, we'd be laughed at just as much. I just don't see an upside in advocating this.

    If you are truly upset by what you term as "illegal" intervention by our nations leadership, then why say we should do it? We have to start somewhere saying NO MORE!

    I'm saying that sense we have no business attacking another country that hasn't attacked us (check the constitution in case you didn't realise that that is illegal), Obama's qualifications to commit such a crime are irrelevant.

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    Re: Senior Administration Official: ‘Very Little Doubt’ Assad Regime Behind Alleged C

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    We just don't want that guy in power.
    White House Spokesman = minister of propaganda.

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    Re: Senior Administration Official: ‘Very Little Doubt’ Assad Regime Behind Alleged C

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    O damn I guess that just throws my argument out the window because I'm a White House staffer or something?

    Hey check it out man, my opinion is not pre-determined by anyone else's, I'm not beholden to statements made by the President or the White House so this really has next to nothing to do with what I said. In other words, I don't care what Jay Carney said and what he does say has no effect on me at all.
    If your support of action is based on your third point, I was merely pointing out that the administration is NOT expressing an intent or desire to remove anyone. So, what did they call it...a "brief and limited" response...probably something like blowing up a few warehouses. That will do it.

    As for the 'moderates' you wish to support..are they anything like the moderates in Egypt?

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    Re: Senior Administration Official: ‘Very Little Doubt’ Assad Regime Behind Alleged C

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    If your support of action is based on your third point, I was merely pointing out that the administration is NOT expressing an intent or desire to remove anyone. So, what did they call it...a "brief and limited" response...probably something like blowing up a few warehouses. That will do it.

    As for the 'moderates' you wish to support..are they anything like the moderates in Egypt?
    Vance, regime change in Syria has been a long standing goal of US foreign policy, PLEASE tell us your not buying the propaganda coming out of the White House on this.

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    Re: Senior Administration Official: ‘Very Little Doubt’ Assad Regime Behind Alleged C

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Vance, regime change in Syria has been a long standing goal of US foreign policy, PLEASE tell us your not buying the propaganda coming out of the White House on this.
    That would mean they are LYING...

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    Re: Senior Administration Official: ‘Very Little Doubt’ Assad Regime Behind Alleged C

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    If your support of action is based on your third point, I was merely pointing out that the administration is NOT expressing an intent or desire to remove anyone. So, what did they call it...a "brief and limited" response...probably something like blowing up a few warehouses. That will do it.

    As for the 'moderates' you wish to support..are they anything like the moderates in Egypt?
    My opinion is different than that of the White House, although its more similar to theirs than yours is, but again not exactly the same.

    I don't claim to be an expert by any means whatsoever on the ins-and-outs of the Syrian rebels but ideally they would be something like the moderates in Libya that we supported with air strikes and support. People hark on the terrorist attack in Benghazi but Libya has otherwise been an extremely succesful foreign policy operation, the country's rebels are moderate, were supported by the international community, have been able to hold the country together fairly well to prevent more violence, and are getting better at doing so.

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    Re: Senior Administration Official: ‘Very Little Doubt’ Assad Regime Behind Alleged C

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    My opinion is different than that of the White House, although its more similar to theirs than yours is, but again not exactly the same.

    I don't claim to be an expert by any means whatsoever on the ins-and-outs of the Syrian rebels but ideally they would be something like the moderates in Libya that we supported with air strikes and support. People hark on the terrorist attack in Benghazi but Libya has otherwise been an extremely succesful foreign policy operation, the country's rebels are moderate, were supported by the international community, have been able to hold the country together fairly well to prevent more violence, and are getting better at doing so.
    Except for the murdered ambassador, theft of shoulder launched SAMS, questionable execution of 'rights' etc...

    Im not saying Obama shouldnt go in...Im saying there should be proof and if they have it they should go in and kick ass and then get out. That was Bush's failing. The kick ass part happened...but they didnt do so well with the 'get out' part. And that is going to make Syria precarious as well. SHOULD they topple Assad, who then takes over? Which rebel group takes control? And for how long?

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    Re: Senior Administration Official: ‘Very Little Doubt’ Assad Regime Behind Alleged C

    Quote Originally Posted by P. Kersey View Post
    Oh..maybe I did miss the point, then...Sorry. My error.

    Middle eastern troubles influence the price of oil negatively, however..which in turn ripples out and affects us and our economy. I maintain we could be 100% energy independent..if we wanted to be.
    My reference to voting our way out of our troubles is just to support my premise that international corporations and banks run the show here and "voting" in a "new" administration, etc...won't change a thing.
    I think it's true but you might be right. It is off on a tangent from the discussion. I'll try to focus better. Thanks!
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    Re: Senior Administration Official: ‘Very Little Doubt’ Assad Regime Behind Alleged C

    This whole thing feels exactly like the build up to Iraq. I mean it is eerie how similar they are.
    We went from sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me to safe spaces.

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    Re: Senior Administration Official: ‘Very Little Doubt’ Assad Regime Behind Alleged C

    Question: In what circumstances, if any, would the president have constitutional authority to bomb Iran without seeking a use-of-force authorization from Congress? (Specifically, what about the strategic bombing of suspected nuclear sites — a situation that does not involve stopping an IMMINENT threat?)

    Speaker Y: The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.

    As Commander-in-Chief, the President does have a duty to protect and defend the United States. In instances of self-defense, the President would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent.

    Name that Speaker!!! Click here for the answer.


    Might be a good question to ask right about now, "How is Syria an actual or imminent threat to the nation?"

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