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    Re: Senior Administration Official: ‘Very Little Doubt’ Assad Regime Behind Alleged C

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Its more than just the use of chemical waepons, its about not letting the situation grow any more out of control, and not letting radicals take over power on both sides even more than they already have. Also I personally don't hold people responsible for the crimes of others, if some of these rebel groups have murdered civilians for not supporting them or for being Christian than obviously those are not the groups we want to support. But I'm not going to lump everyone together and pretend all the rebel groups are the same, I made it pretty clear that we should support the moderates to marginalize those kind of people.

    Its not about "showing them" is about removing them from power and replacing them with a friendlier more moderate government and putting an end to this conflict which is only growing more religious by the day and its fighters only more extreme in their views as it goes on.
    The rebel groups are infested with Islamists and al Qaida, there is no separating them out. What part of that is confusing. We have been arming and training terrorists in an attempt to overthrow the Assad government. And this is because China and Russia have blocked all attempts to overthrow the Assad government overtly!

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    Re: Senior Administration Official: ‘Very Little Doubt’ Assad Regime Behind Alleged C

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Just who are these "moderates" that can put an end to this conflict and please tell me they have not already aligned themselves with terror groups?

    Oh that's right, Obama blew his chance at that by doing nothing for so long. Never mind.

    How many times does one need to repeat. Obama did what you are suppose to do. Several times he sent Hillary Clinton to the UN to ask for sanctions and authorisation for use of force. EVERY SINGLE TIME we were told NO! Are you advocating he ignore international law again, and bypass our congress?

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    Re: Senior Administration Official: ‘Very Little Doubt’ Assad Regime Behind Alleged C

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Companies made oil our business for cheap products. The Middle East has oil which goes to India and China who make us cheap stuff. If they have higher costs, then we have higher costs. We made cheap goods our business. My $0.02.
    We have ample oil on this continent and the ability to be 100% energy independent. The government doesn't WANT that, though...so who controls the government, the people? Seriously?
    LMAO...no..international corporations and banks.

    Surely you don't believe we can vote our way out of this mess?
    If that were really so, they wouldn't ALLOW us to vote. It would be too dangerous to them.
    They like things just as they are.

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    Re: Senior Administration Official: ‘Very Little Doubt’ Assad Regime Behind Alleged C

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Its more than just the use of chemical waepons, its about not letting the situation grow any more out of control, and not letting radicals take over power on both sides even more than they already have. Also I personally don't hold people responsible for the crimes of others, if some of these rebel groups have murdered civilians for not supporting them or for being Christian than obviously those are not the groups we want to support. But I'm not going to lump everyone together and pretend all the rebel groups are the same, I made it pretty clear that we should support the moderates to marginalize those kind of people.

    Its not about "showing them" is about removing them from power and replacing them with a friendlier more moderate government and putting an end to this conflict which is only growing more religious by the day and its fighters only more extreme in their views as it goes on.
    "I want to make clear that the options that we are considering are not about regime change," White House spokesman Jay Carney said Tuesday.

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    Re: Senior Administration Official: ‘Very Little Doubt’ Assad Regime Behind Alleged C

    Quote Originally Posted by P. Kersey View Post
    We have ample oil on this continent and the ability to be 100% energy independent. The government doesn't WANT that, though...so who controls the government, the people? Seriously?
    LMAO...no..international corporations and banks.

    Surely you don't believe we can vote our way out of this mess?
    If that were really so, they wouldn't ALLOW us to vote. It would be too dangerous to them.
    They like things just as they are.
    I think you missed what I am saying. Middle East Oil does not come to America. It is mostly exported to the two fastest growing nations in the world. India and China. Their growth and demand for fuel is why we fight in the Middle East. Honestly, if human compassion is our reason for invading countries in the Middle East, then why haven't we cleaned up our own hemisphere?

    At no time did I say we needed the oil.

    I said companies are the reason we are fighting. I am really not sure where you got voting and allow us to vote. Pretty much I think you went off the handle at the end.
    We went from sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me to safe spaces.

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    Re: Senior Administration Official: ‘Very Little Doubt’ Assad Regime Behind Alleged C

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    "I want to make clear that the options that we are considering are not about regime change," White House spokesman Jay Carney said Tuesday.
    We just don't want that guy in power.
    We went from sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me to safe spaces.

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    Re: Senior Administration Official: ‘Very Little Doubt’ Assad Regime Behind Alleged C

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    "I want to make clear that the options that we are considering are not about regime change," White House spokesman Jay Carney said Tuesday.

    Well there it is, if the White House said it....................!

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    Re: Senior Administration Official: ‘Very Little Doubt’ Assad Regime Behind Alleged C

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Obama's qualifications to launch another illegal attack, or abuse another UN resolution are irrelevant.
    No, they really aren't...Look, Obama doesn't have the fortitude to do what is necessary in Syria, nor does he, or his ideology indicate that he would support the right side in the conflict. What do we gain by getting involved? Syria was not a friend before this uprising, nor will they be after.

    If all we are going to do is launch a barrage of Tomahawks at Syria, and not take out their air capabilities, or damage Assad in any way to continue to kill his own people, then we might as well send a strongly worded letter, we'd be laughed at just as much. I just don't see an upside in advocating this.

    If you are truly upset by what you term as "illegal" intervention by our nations leadership, then why say we should do it? We have to start somewhere saying NO MORE!
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    Re: Senior Administration Official: ‘Very Little Doubt’ Assad Regime Behind Alleged C

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I think you missed what I am saying. Middle East Oil does not come to America. It is mostly exported to the two fastest growing nations in the world. India and China. Their growth and demand for fuel is why we fight in the Middle East. Honestly, if human compassion is our reason for invading countries in the Middle East, then why haven't we cleaned up our own hemisphere?

    At no time did I say we needed the oil.

    I said companies are the reason we are fighting. I am really not sure where you got voting and allow us to vote. Pretty much I think you went off the handle at the end.
    Oh..maybe I did miss the point, then...Sorry. My error.

    Middle eastern troubles influence the price of oil negatively, however..which in turn ripples out and affects us and our economy. I maintain we could be 100% energy independent..if we wanted to be.
    My reference to voting our way out of our troubles is just to support my premise that international corporations and banks run the show here and "voting" in a "new" administration, etc...won't change a thing.
    I think it's true but you might be right. It is off on a tangent from the discussion. I'll try to focus better. Thanks!
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    Re: Senior Administration Official: ‘Very Little Doubt’ Assad Regime Behind Alleged C

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    "I want to make clear that the options that we are considering are not about regime change," White House spokesman Jay Carney said Tuesday.
    O damn I guess that just throws my argument out the window because I'm a White House staffer or something?

    Hey check it out man, my opinion is not pre-determined by anyone else's, I'm not beholden to statements made by the President or the White House so this really has next to nothing to do with what I said. In other words, I don't care what Jay Carney said and what he does say has no effect on me at all.

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