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    Re: Feds are building a detective squad to target consumers and companies that don't

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Building a civilian force just as big, just as well armed as the US military...Wasn't that what Barry said we needed? Who knew that Congress (the people) would be bypassed in deciding this sort of thing, or approving it....
    No civilian or even police force is just as big or just as well armed than the US military. That is not a little bit untrue but utter and total

    The same was spread the law enforcement bought 16 or so mine protected vehicles. The story than was the same, law enforcement just as well armed as the US military.
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    Re: Feds are building a detective squad to target consumers and companies that don't

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Building a civilian force just as big, just as well armed as the US military...Wasn't that what Barry said we needed? Who knew that Congress (the people) would be bypassed in deciding this sort of thing, or approving it....
    Since when has the Congress been directly involved in hiring decisions of Federal agencies? That's micromanagement to the extreme. Sure if the President wants to appoint a new Secretary of State or Federal Judge than ya Congress can have a hearing, but to review the hiring of thousands of mid-level employees? That's not functioning government.

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    Re: Feds are building a detective squad to target consumers and companies that don't

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Being skeptical of wild-eyed comparisons coming from a person is entirely compatible with being wary of what people say. Because the govt is made up of people, being skeptical of wild-eyed comparisons imp-lies being skeptical of govt. Why should I turn off my skepticism just because someone has a .gov e-mail address?
    I have no idea. You're the only one who has raised this question.

    86 federal agents is so far removed from being a "force just as big, just as well armed as the US military"
    To me, it seems quite possible to acknowledge that 86 detectives is a far cry from 1.4 million while retaining a basic wariness of govt which extends from a basic wariness of people. If anything, acknowledging that people can get hyperbolic and hyperventilate reinforces the idea that the things people say need to be scrutinized before accepting them.
    There doesn't seem to be anyone being hyperbolic or hyperventilating but you be sure to point it out if there is.

    And govt is made up of people.
    Good point. The inmates of prisons are people too. I doubt anyone argued the contrary.

    Pointing out that someone is exaggerating when they compare 86 guys to the US Military is something different than accepting "benign big government." It is also something different than trusting govt.
    You didn't read the links, right?

    Also, fwiw, I don't think that the level of mistrust of govt in general population has changed all that much. I just think that the steep increase in distrust of political parties and their operatives has changed how that attitude presents.
    It seems clear enough that too many people are defending a political party in the way they would their family, deliberately avoiding the problems, and even lawlessness, taking place within. We've seen that repeatedly with the present administration.

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    Re: Feds are building a detective squad to target consumers and companies that don't

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Since when has the Congress been directly involved in hiring decisions of Federal agencies? That's micromanagement to the extreme. Sure if the President wants to appoint a new Secretary of State or Federal Judge than ya Congress can have a hearing, but to review the hiring of thousands of mid-level employees? That's not functioning government.
    Hiring thousands of mid level employees while not being aware of their function would appear to be a problem. Where do you think the buck should stop?

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    Re: detective squad to target consumers and companies that don't foll

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I think it's laid out pretty clear in the article. Maybe you should read it past the word that annoys you.
    I didn't want the article's opinion. I wanted to hear yours. You know, if you had your own thoughts, I mean. This big, well-armed security force of 1800 people you're terrified of: what are they going to do that bothers you?
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    Re: detective squad to target consumers and companies that don't foll

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I didn't want the article's opinion. I wanted to hear yours. You know, if you had your own thoughts, I mean. This big, well-armed security force of 1800 people you're terrified of: what are they going to do that bothers you?
    "Terrified"? "If I have my own opinion"? Wow, way to add snotty to your post....Yes, I do have my own opinion...And I do believe that if Obama could get away with arming a civilian force in an authoritarian quest overtly he absolutely would...Is this in that vein? Maybe....Does 80 some people constitute a "force"? I don't know, depends on how they build from there doesn't it?
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    Re: Feds are building a detective squad to target consumers and companies that don't

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I have no idea. You're the only one who has raised this question.
    I didn't mark it as one, but that was a rhetorical question. It's not actually asked to be answered. It's just asked to make a point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There doesn't seem to be anyone being hyperbolic or hyperventilating but you be sure to point it out if there is.
    I did point it out.

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    You didn't read the links, right?
    Can you point to what has led to make this mistake?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: detective squad to target consumers and companies that don't foll

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    This big, well-armed security force of 1800 people...
    There're only 86 of them which are armed.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Feds are building a detective squad to target consumers and companies that don't

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    At the current hiring rate of ~500 people per year.... how long before they match the US military? Another 3000 years? And no, Obama was talking about AmeriCorps. Not HHS.
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    Re: Feds are building a detective squad to target consumers and companies that don't

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Building a civilian force just as big, just as well armed as the US military...Wasn't that what Barry said we needed? Who knew that Congress (the people) would be bypassed in deciding this sort of thing, or approving it....
    One more reminder that "healthcare" (under the guise of "Obama"care) is just a false front for what the Democrats have really been pursuing for the past 100 years - raw, unmitigated power.

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