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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, maybe his grandfather, seeing as his father was Kenyan.
    OMG, even me saying the gentlemen was old enough to be Obama's grandfather has to be marred by making this into a racial issue.

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    If the tables of this incident were turned, and it was an 88year old black WWII vet that had been attacked in that parking lot by two white teens, the calls of a racist attack would be deafening....And you know it.
    probably, not fair but it is probable. Mostly unfairly but that does not change the fact that there is zero proof that this was a racist murder.

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    No, outlets like MSNBC, and Al (race extortionist) Sharpton set the narrative that it was, and you bought into it.
    So you think Zimmerman would have stepped out of his car if the boy was not colored? I doubt it. I have already stated, the killing itself was not racially motivated but the targeting of Trayvon was IMHO partly based on the color of his skin. I have heard of black kids sleeping in a car were reported to the police as "suspicious" even when a couple of white kids were trashing a car only a few dozen yards away in full view of everybody.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    GZ was acquitted, and no charges of a racial crime were brought. You are simply wrong on this.
    Yes, he was acquitted of murder. But no charges of racial crime does not mean that he did not target Trayvon as a suspicious person because of the color of his skin. It has nothing to do with what happened afterwards with how or why Travyon died. Not everything that has to do with race will immediately end in a crime or a prosecution.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Then he shouldn't be commenting on ANY of them...Can't pick and choose unless you are doing so for an agenda....
    It might have been smarter to be silent. But a president is just a human being with human feelings. He did not say anything outrageous IMHO or attacked Zimmerman.

    And talking about agenda? Crimes like this are also often used for an agenda. One agenda (I am not claiming or suggesting or accusing that this is what you or other posters on this forum are doing, I am talking in general/stories I read outside this forum) is trying to complain about why black civil leaders have not spoken about this murder (aka, they hate white people and don't care if they get killed).
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I have no doubt you don't get it.
    Then explain "it"...... I mean if we are supposed to be color blind in all things, then tell me why the narratives are different if it is white on black, vs. black on white?
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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    OMG, even me saying the gentlemen was old enough to be Obama's grandfather has to be marred by making this into a racial issue.
    Good grief peter, at least know what you wrote less than 15 postings ago....

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King Post #25
    And no, this gentlemen could not have looked like Obama's son. But he could have been Obama's father and then too this would have been a tragedy.
    Wrong again.

    probably, not fair but it is probable. Mostly unfairly but that does not change the fact that there is zero proof that this was a racist murder.
    There was no proof that GZ racially killed TM either, but that didn't stop you and others claiming it was from the start.

    So you think Zimmerman would have stepped out of his car if the boy was not colored? I doubt it. I have already stated, the killing itself was not racially motivated but the targeting of Trayvon was IMHO partly based on the color of his skin. I have heard of black kids sleeping in a car were reported to the police as "suspicious" even when a couple of white kids were trashing a car only a few dozen yards away in full view of everybody.
    I don't think he knew for a certainty what color TM was at the start of him noticing him as out of place in the neighborhood. He told the 911 operator, "I think he's black...." not "He's black...." So this is just you adding your bias into the case.

    Yes, he was acquitted of murder. But no charges of racial crime does not mean that he did not target Trayvon as a suspicious person because of the color of his skin. It has nothing to do with what happened afterwards with how or why Travyon died. Not everything that has to do with race will immediately end in a crime or a prosecution.
    That's your opinion...Unfortunately for you it means little as it pertains to fact in the case.

    It might have been smarter to be silent. But a president is just a human being with human feelings. He did not say anything outrageous IMHO or attacked Zimmerman.

    And talking about agenda? Crimes like this are also often used for an agenda. One agenda (I am not claiming or suggesting or accusing that this is what you or other posters on this forum are doing, I am talking in general/stories I read outside this forum) is trying to complain about why black civil leaders have not spoken about this murder (aka, they hate white people and don't care if they get killed).
    Tell me Peter, can a black man be a racist?
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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    I don't understand why all the "non-racists" on either side have to turn these things into issues of race. Can't we just say a bunch of stupid criminals committed a crime and deserve to be punished?


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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The media is just saying that right now without anyone official giving details...Although I could have swore that yesterday when I first heard this reported on the radio, the reporter stated that, police were calling it a failed robbery attempt, but nothing on the individual was taken....

    If that is the case, then why call it an attempted robbery when they don't even have the suspects in custody to determine motive? Is this the media trying to defuse the racial tension if this turns out to be just an attack for the sake of attacking a white person by the black teens?
    I have been thinking the same thing, either it was robbery or it wasn't. If these black kids beat an old white man to death and didn't even rob him it opens a huge can of worms that most people do not want to deal with.

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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    They just arrested one of these punks. It will be interesting to find out more about him.

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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I don't understand why all the "non-racists" on either side have to turn these things into issues of race. Can't we just say a bunch of stupid criminals committed a crime and deserve to be punished?
    I'm sure that's exactly what you said when Trayvon was shot.

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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Then explain "it"...... I mean if we are supposed to be color blind in all things, then tell me why the narratives are different if it is white on black, vs. black on white?
    The narratives are different because the crimes and the aftermath is different. Had this been one black guy who got caught then released because he said it was self defense do you not think there would be outrage? And yet you are all bringing color into it while blasting the other side for doing the exact same thing. But nobody who is doing that is seeing they are doing the same thing. That's what they don't seem to get.
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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I don't understand why all the "non-racists" on either side have to turn these things into issues of race. Can't we just say a bunch of stupid criminals committed a crime and deserve to be punished?
    Or how about we simply adopt consistent standards and stop trying so hard to negate the race factor when it doesn't fit in with our agenda?
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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I don't understand why all the "non-racists" on either side have to turn these things into issues of race. Can't we just say a bunch of stupid criminals committed a crime and deserve to be punished?
    No, because in the inverse the same calls of racism would be there, only difference is either you would agree then, or remain silent....

    Hitting the news now though, police in WA, make one arrest, so it won't be long before we know....
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