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    Re: 89 Year Old WWII Veteran Beaten and Left for Dead Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not so sure that is the case anymore....The three teens that shot the aussie in the back, stated that they did it because they were "bored", not poor....Another example is that I don't think that the teens in Chicago, turning that place into a war zone, are doing such because they are poor....That is just the excuse they will use, like 'you can't blame me, I had a bad childhood...'
    There will always be outliers when you have a graph of statistics that doesn't make it the norm in terms of graphs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    If the rates haven't changed "that much" well then why don't you post them ?

    Why are you posting 2009 data whan you have access to 2013 data ?
    I was actually wrong, the website uses the latest data which would be 2011. The FBI hasn't completed their 2012 or 2013 data accumulation yet. The 2012 data will be completed by the end of the year but there are some preliminary reports. The 2013 data won't be complete until the end of 2014. A good example if you look at the 2012 data for Chicago you'll see violent crime column isn't filled out yet as the reporting methods are different, but so is Minneosta's. So it takes apparently longer to get the updated statistics from them as it has to be arranged or something to fit national standards. I don't work for the FBI so I'm not sure exactly what they are doing differently.

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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nynaeve Meara View Post

    Again, desperation caused by poverty will increase crime rates due to lowered education standards and drug abuse with lower education.
    Poverty doesn't cause "lowered education standards"..poverty doesn't cause drug abuse...

    Quote Originally Posted by Nynaeve Meara View Post
    Your opinion of Detroit is noted, but doesn't fit with the facts there are many reasons why that city is in trouble. The simplification you provided is insulting.
    Gerrymandered districts that create an artificial black majority which then elects blacks and ONLY blacks to office, who in turn appoint blacks and ONLY blacks to every position they can.
    Government manipulation of the bidding process meant to ensure equality, instead favored Black businesses owners and minority owned firms.
    Public jobs became almost entirely Black, with every department funded by tax-dollars headed and staffed – from the water board, sanitation, the courts, and voting boards – by Black people... but it’s all artificial. The wealth of the Black middle class is nothing more than an illusion, manifested by hyper affirmative action in government contracting and a reliance on public employment.

    Public services become more inefficient and crime rises. Business and taxpayers move out. (I think it's called "white flight") ...tax revenues begin to fall..the city has to raise taxes in order to make up the difference...more taxpayers and businesses leave...crime continues to rise and city services continue to decline ....taxes must be raised.... more taxpayers and businesses move out...crime, misery and blight increase....rinse and repeat......etc..etc...now detroit is almost 90% black. They can't even maintain minimum standards of civilization.
    Look at Hiroshima today..and it got nuked..look at detroit today under black leadership...Draw your own conclusions.

    LMAO...look how the detroit city council holds meetings...it's a circus..



    In Detroit, 47 percent of adults are functionally illiterate. Detroit public school system students have a higher chance of going to prison than they do of graduating high school, but the average Detroit teacher salary is $71,000.


    Poverty is the problem?

    LMAO..how in the world did lincoln...born in absolute poverty, go from a log cabin to the white house with no welfare, section 8 housing, EBT card, or government enforced artificial elevation by laws to give him preferential treatment?

    He taught himself to read with the help of his stepmother...He walked miles just to borrow books..His total formal education amounted to around 18 months.
    He ran for and got elected to the Illinois legislature and then decided he wanted to be a lawyer...so he taught himself law by reading William Blackstone's "Commentaries on the Laws of England., was admitted to the bar in 1837..ran for president and was elected...twice....etc... you know the rest.

    Can you explain that?

    I don't want to hear lame excuses about how negroes can't make it on their own...
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    Re: 89 Year Old WWII Veteran Beaten and Left for Dead Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by Nynaeve Meara View Post
    There will always be outliers when you have a graph of statistics that doesn't make it the norm in terms of graphs.
    Statistics are always the last bastion of those who want to muddy up the waters of truth.
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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nynaeve Meara View Post
    I didn't say that. However, when people become desperate crime goes up and that goes hand in hand with poverty.

    It is three years old, but the rates haven't changed much in the past three years. Houston and Dallas still have higher crime rates than Chicago. You'll find pockets of less crime throughout each city of course. However the steady trend holds.

    Again, desperation caused by poverty will increase crime rates due to lowered education standards and drug abuse with lower education.

    Your opinion of Detroit is noted, but doesn't fit with the facts there are many reasons why that city is in trouble. The simplification you provided is insulting.

    Opinion statement, I disagree with your assessment.



    I'm confused as to what you are saying? Phoenix has lower poverty rates than Chicago... Philly has more thus more crime. Are you reading some statistics wrong?
    I included the link reporting that Chicago was ahead of both Philadelphia and Phoenix when counting those living in "extreme poverty".

    Chicago has the third highest rate of extreme poverty of the nation's 10 largest cities, at 10.4 percent, according to the U.S. Census Bureau's 2011 American Community Survey. Philadelphia is first at 12.9 percent, followed by Phoenix at 10.7 percent.
    Chicago has third highest extreme poverty rate in the nation | Chicago Muckrakers

    The official poverty rate for Chicago, IL is 27.5% while it is 26.5% for Phoenix, AZ - very close indeed. Philadelphia, PA is poorer still with a poverty rate of 30.2%.

    More links on Phoenix and Arizona's poverty rates:

    Phoenix, Arizona (AZ) poverty rate data - information about poor and low income residents living in this city

    Arizona is now No. 2 in poverty
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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by P. Kersey View Post
    In Detroit, 47 percent of adults are functionally illiterate. Detroit public school system students have a higher chance of going to prison than they do of graduating high school, but the average Detroit teacher salary is $71,000. Poverty is the problem?
    Over 97% of them voted Democrat.

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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Over 97% of them voted Democrat.

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    136% of them voted for soetoro..LMAO

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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by P. Kersey View Post
    I don't want to hear lame excuses about how negroes can't make it on their own...
    I don't want to hear excuses from anybody who was born in this county, speaks English, and is able-bodied.

    With my own eyes I saw how the first "boat people" began in my big-city hometown. Sometimes 20 guys bunking in a one-bedroom apartment in the project and picking up garbage alongside the freeways. Ten years later they were successful newspaper publishers and restauranteurs and shopkeepers, and their kids were winning spelling bees. The dirtiest four-letter word of them all is "work."

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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I don't want to hear excuses from anybody who was born in this county, speaks English, and is able-bodied.

    With my own eyes I saw how the first "boat people" began in my big-city hometown. Sometimes 20 guys bunking in a one-bedroom apartment in the project and picking up garbage alongside the freeways. Ten years later they were successful newspaper publishers and restauranteurs and shopkeepers, and their kids were winning spelling bees. The dirtiest four-letter word of them all is "work."
    Excellent point. I remember when the vietnamese first started immigrating to my "big city" hometown after vietnam. Same kind of story.

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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I included the link reporting that Chicago was ahead of both Philadelphia and Phoenix when counting those living in "extreme poverty".



    Chicago has third highest extreme poverty rate in the nation | Chicago Muckrakers

    The official poverty rate for Chicago, IL is 27.5% while it is 26.5% for Phoenix, AZ - very close indeed. Philadelphia, PA is poorer still with a poverty rate of 30.2%.

    More links on Phoenix and Arizona's poverty rates:

    Phoenix, Arizona (AZ) poverty rate data - information about poor and low income residents living in this city

    Arizona is now No. 2 in poverty
    So again Philly has higher poverty and its crime rate is higher. Phoenix is lower and has less.

    I guess I don't know what you are trying to say.

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    Statistics don't lie... I'm sorry it doesn't fit your agenda.
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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nynaeve Meara View Post



    Statistics don't lie... I'm sorry it doesn't fit your agenda.
    hmmmm...Isn't that interesting....I'm going to remember you said that.

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