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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    But what created that culture?
    People create culture...misguided, unprincipled, violent, corrupt people create just that kind of culture.

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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    But what created that culture?

    (Sigh).


    A lot things. Slavery, Jim Crow and separate-but-unequal certainly had their part.

    BUT.... in the 1960s and 70s we got the civil rights act and all kinds of EOE/AA and college-help programs aimed at helping the black community lift itself out of poverty and join the nation at large in prosperity and lawfulness.

    That was around 50 years ago.... and racism really has abated to a HUGE degree since then, and the glass ceiling shattered long ago.

    The opportunities are there. Companies are desperate for qualified blacks to promote to higher positions, because they don't want to get dinged for having a too-white executive class or suffer bad PR accusations of racism.

    Those who seize those opportunities and work them to their utmost DO succeed, for the most part. Clarence Thomas, Barry Obama, Alan Keyes, Herman Cain, Oprah, Spike Lee, Tyler Perry... hell I posted a list of black business owners and executives in SC not long ago... there's a LOT of blacks making a prosperous way for themselves in the modern world.

    Unfortunately, there's still far too many left behind in the culture-of-poverty... and at this point I don't think Whitey can be to blame anymore. The opportunities are there.... they are just not being taken.


    This is why I say the answer is going to have to come from within, as a cultural revitalization.

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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Are you kidding me? I will use the highest historic rates of U.S. poverty (2010) - even though they are lower today. You also assume that nobody, other than the poor, commit crime which is quite a stretch as well.

    The poverty rate for whites is 10% and they are 63% of the U.S. population so that is 6.3% of the US popualtion being white and poor.

    The poverty rate for blacks is 27% and they are 13% of the U.S. population so that is 3.5% of the U.S. population being black and poor.

    The poverty rate for hispanics is 26% and they are 15% of the U.S. population so that is 3.9% of the U.S. population being hispanic and poor.

    Using simple math and adding the poor black and poor hispanic percentages of the US population yields 7.2%, which is a little higher than 6.3% (poor white percentage of total U.S. population) but not nearly twice as many; which would have to exceed 12.6% of the U.S. population.



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    No I'm not kidding you but again you aren't using per capita right just like the guy above me.

    There are more than twice the poor black/latino people than white per capita.

    I don't get why its so hard to understand this.
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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by P. Kersey View Post
    I see. I believe I did misunderstand. My apologies. In fact I agree with you.
    I also believe the fact that over 70% of black births occur out of wedlock and typically the fathers abandon the mothers...(like obama's father did)...causes emotional harm as well. Not having a strong father around to teach and correct bad behavior allows these kids to grow up with no cultural references other than what they see on tv...and tv is not a reliable source for learning family values.

    I agree that the lack of strong and positive male role model can leave a crucial hole in a child's development... especially a boy. No doubt this is a significant factor.

    Welfare actually plays into this too... a woman can typically get more money out of the system if she isn't officially and legally married. Absent marriage, it is a lot easier for the man to just walk away when things get difficult.

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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    (Sigh).


    A lot things. Slavery, Jim Crow and separate-but-unequal certainly had their part.

    BUT.... in the 1960s and 70s we got the civil rights act and all kinds of EOE/AA and college-help programs aimed at helping the black community lift itself out of poverty and join the nation at large in prosperity and lawfulness.

    That was around 50 years ago.... and racism really has abated to a HUGE degree since then, and the glass ceiling shattered long ago.

    The opportunities are there. Companies are desperate for qualified blacks to promote to higher positions, because they don't want to get dinged for having a too-white executive class or suffer bad PR accusations of racism.

    Those who seize those opportunities and work them to their utmost DO succeed, for the most part. Clarence Thomas, Barry Obama, Alan Keyes, Herman Cain, Oprah, Spike Lee, Tyler Perry... hell I posted a list of black business owners and executives in SC not long ago... there's a LOT of blacks making a prosperous way for themselves in the modern world.

    Unfortunately, there's still far too many left behind in the culture-of-poverty... and at this point I don't think Whitey can be to blame anymore. The opportunities are there.... they are just not being taken.


    This is why I say the answer is going to have to come from within, as a cultural revitalization.
    That kind of transformation needs cooperation between blacks and whites, plus the rest of society.

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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    That kind of transformation needs cooperation between blacks and whites, plus the rest of society.

    Exactly what more do you think whites should do? We already have EOE/AA, all kinds of college funds and grants and special loans, all kinds of programs and spending aimed at helping revitalize and de-thuggify inner city neighborhoods... I live in South Carolina and every day I see white grandparents in their 60s and 70s playing with their mixed-race grandchildren and nobody else batting an eye over it, so I am disinclined to think widespread white racism is still a causal agent... so exactly WTF else can whites do? The opportunities are there... grab them and climb the ladder.

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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nynaeve Meara View Post
    No I'm not kidding you but again you aren't using per capita right just like the guy above me.

    There are more than twice the poor black/latino people than white per capita.

    I don't get why its so hard to understand this.
    The poverty rates (percentages) are indeed higher within those racial/ethnic segments of the popualtion, but that is not per capita. Per capita is of the whole or per person.

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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Exactly what more do you think whites should do? We already have EOE/AA, all kinds of college funds and grants and special loans, all kinds of programs and spending aimed at helping revitalize and de-thuggify inner city neighborhoods... I live in South Carolina and every day I see white grandparents in their 60s and 70s playing with their mixed-race grandchildren and nobody else batting an eye over it, so I am disinclined to think widespread white racism is still a causal agent... so exactly WTF else can whites do? The opportunities are there... grab them and climb the ladder.
    Maybe they can help by trying to be the role models for the black community. Or maybe try to understand why the gang culture is so appealing to African Americans.

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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nynaeve Meara View Post
    No I'm not kidding you but again you aren't using per capita right just like the guy above me.

    There are more than twice the poor black/latino people than white per capita.

    I don't get why its so hard to understand this.
    Twist and turn..spin and dodge..play word games and obfuscate...the fact remains that negroes commit a disproportionate amount of crime despite only being 13% of the population...and it is noted that you avoid and refuse to address the facts I posted in #169 as you desperately try to equivocate and rationalize.

    Here's another proven statistic for you to evade;
    http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/bvvc.pdf

    A 2007 special report released by the Bureau of Justice Statistics, reveals that approximately 8,000 — and, in certain years, as many as 9,000 African Americans are murdered annually in the United States. This chilling figure is accompanied by another equally sobering fact, that 93% of these murders are in fact perpetrated by other blacks. The analysis, supported by FBI records, finds that in 2005 alone, for example, African Americans accounted for 49% of all homicide victims in the US — again, almost exclusively at the hands of other African Americans.

    During the Vietnam War, which lasted nearly 13 years, some 58,000 Americans were killed — nearly 13 percent of whom were African American.
    Extrapolating black-on-black crime data reveals that, by comparison, approximately 100,000 African Americans have been killed on our own streets at the hands of other African Americans in roughly the same stretches of time. It is difficult to find anyone who would white-wash these mind-numbing statistics.

    Now try to explain that with some convoluted excuse about poverty or per capita or whatever dodge you'll seek refuge in this time.

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    Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

    What we need is an end to the politically correct. Teachers need to be allowed to be frank with their students, and disclose in no uncertain terms the end result students can look forward to for poor performance, without getting fired for delivering a disturbing message to young minds. Parents need to be held accountable for the upbringing of their kids. There are harsh lessons that need to be learned, and they need to be taught before their kids are adults.

    You do not have the right to not get offended, and once born, a child's rights supersedes those of a parents, up until they are considered old enough to be independent.
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