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Bradley Manning is now Chelsea Manning [W:148]

Really? Hypothetically "typing" - how would you feel if the government broke down your door, threw you in a cell and no one knew where you were except for one individual? then that individual called "bull****" and exposed the notion you're locked alone in a cell???

I suppose it's easy to just judge a persons actions from the outside looking in but the perspective is a lot different to victims...

You sit there snug while the government isn't necessarily attacking you so you don't care...

You won't get Snowden or Manning until the chickens come home to roost...




The chickens have come home to roost for Bradley/Chelsea Manning.

He/she did the crime, now he/she must do the time.

I don't see anything unfair about that.
 
"Manning is without question mentally ill...."

Then you should treat her with the respect that you would afford anyone with a mental health issue.

Progressives have no desire to treat "gender identity issues" as mental illness....

It's part of the communist/totalitarian master plan - if you can tolerate a man who wants to be a woman and accept that as logical - what wouldn't you accept as logical?? -- oh yeah the sentence and idea I just elaborated.

To a progressive I'm nuts and the guy who wants to cut his dong off is perfectly sane...
 
Progressives have no desire to treat "gender identity issues" as mental illness....

Mental health is wider than having a mental illness.....

It's part of the communist/totalitarian master plan - if you can tolerate a man who wants to be a woman and accept that as logical - what wouldn't you accept as logical?? -- oh yeah the sentence and idea I just elaborated.

To a progressive I'm nuts and the guy who wants to cut his dong off is perfectly sane...

Conspiracy theorist too?
 
The chickens have come home to roost for Bradley/Chelsea Manning.

He/she did the crime, now he/she must do the time.

I don't see anything unfair about that.

Apparently you truly just don't get it.

Of course you don't see anything unfair about a military tribunal...

For some reason I think you would have a different understanding if Madoff was the defendant and Ponzi was the judge.....
 
The chickens have come home to roost for Bradley/Chelsea Manning.

He/she did the crime, now he/she must do the time.

I don't see anything unfair about that.

Apparently you truly just don't get it.

Of course you don't see anything unfair about a military tribunal...

For some reason I think you would have a different understanding if Madoff was the defendant and Ponzi was the judge.....
 
Who is this her and she you are referring to?
In high school I knew a transgender person, who at the time had not 'come out'. I believe I jokingly called her "queer" at one point. Several suicide attempts and years of counseling later, I found this out after she had announced her transition. Being gay I thought I would have been more sensitive to that. Yet I managed to cause someone incredible harm, and contribute to someone potentially ending their life.

So please, go ahead. I don't mind you bashing people suffering from psychiatric disorders. Who are you going to attack next? I bet you can crack some really cruel jokes about people suffering from anorexia or depression, huh?
 
He didn't break "the law."....

I love how snug RINO's can be -- "he broke the LAW."

I bet saying "the law" makes you feel good and euphoric inside...

No, just stating a fact. You should try it sometime.
 
Apparently you truly just don't get it.

Of course you don't see anything unfair about a military tribunal...

For some reason I think you would have a different understanding if Madoff was the defendant and Ponzi was the judge.....

That concern is hardly in the same boat as "he didn't break any rules or laws."
 
Then I guess it's up to current military policy on psychiatric healthcare instead of US policy?

I had thought a member of the armed forces was booted right away once that decision was handed down.

There's a website for Marines active and vet where for the past month or so Marines have been decribing witnessing a drumming out from the Corps.

It was usually those who were sentence to do time and then discharged with either a dishonorable or a Bad Chicken Dinner (Bad Conduct Discharge)

After the prisoner had served out his sentence a chaser would escort the prisoner from the brig wearing his dress service uniform to the last company he was serving with. The entire company would fall out in formation. An officer would read the charges against the prisoner and then remove all military emblems, buttons, etc. Then the company would be ordered "About Face" and two drummers would start the drumming as the chaser escorted the now civilian off the base.

This practice is no longer conducted. Back in 1962 some liberal saw a drumming out taking place at the Norfolk Naval Station Marine Barracks and felt sorry for the individual who had disgraced the Corps and dropped a dime and complained.
 
Apparently you truly just don't get it.

Of course you don't see anything unfair about a military tribunal...

For some reason I think you would have a different understanding if Madoff was the defendant and Ponzi was the judge.....


You are the one who doesn't 'get it'.


'Fair' or 'unfair' has nothing to do with it.

Life is 'unfair' sometimes. But this guy brought his problems upon himself. He has no one but himself to blame for his current situation.

Therefore i have very little sympathy for him/her.

Manning is and was in the United States military and he broke military law.

Because of this he was tried and convicted by a military court and now he is on his way to a military prison.

If he doesn't want to do the time, he shouldn't have done the crime.
 
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Mental health is wider than having a mental illness.....



Conspiracy theorist too?

Every nefarious intent by two or more individuals is a conspiracy.

You're part of the conspiracy you just don't know it....

What do you think "progress" means?

It means slowly brainwash a population to hate our founding fathers and destroy our civil liberties...

"gun control" 2

"limitations on free speech" 1

"separation of church and state" 1

"warrantless spying" 4

"prop 8" 10

I can go on forever...

Of course when the totalitarians want the Bill of Rights to mean something they will use it - even to the point of contradicting the document - which is pretty much like eating ones own head...
 
You are the one who doesn't 'get it'.


'Fair' or 'unfair' has nothing to do with it.

Life is 'unfair' sometimes. But this guy brought his problems upon himself. He has no one but himself to blame for his current situation.

Therefore i have very little sympathy for him/her.

Manning is and was in the United States military and he broke military law.

Because of this he was tried and convicted by a military court and now he is on his way to a military prison.

If he doesn't want to do the time, he shouldn't have done the crime.

I understand apparently you're incapable of asking why, and apparently if you did (which I doubt) you're more than accepting of the tyranny.

Manning exposed our government and their actions - just like Snowden and for some reason some people believe we have no right to question government and anyone that does is a tyrant...

Keep on supporting that notion....

It's pretty easy to see where the dominoes fall....
 
Actually the Army said he is a man, and will not receive tax-payer treatments. Did this change? And yes, it is Gender Identity Disorder, in other words, he is confused.

I thought he was a Marine..

I'm "confused" by this world and it's ****ed up politics. The hypocrites and tyrants confuse me considering how accepting and deranged they are.. I suppose fact is fiction and non-fiction is lies...

We live in a backwards ass world where "forward" is only acceptable based on ideology..

I suppose that's too deep..
 
I understand apparently you're incapable of asking why, and apparently if you did (which I doubt) you're more than accepting of the tyranny.

Manning exposed our government and their actions - just like Snowden and for some reason some people believe we have no right to question government and anyone that does is a tyrant...

Keep on supporting that notion...
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It's pretty easy to see where the dominoes fall....




Are you an anarchist?

You sure sound like one.

Manning broke the law.

When people break the law there have to be consequences.

If you don't like the law, you need to try to change it.

But as long as the law is the law, it must be obeyed.
 
Every nefarious intent by two or more individuals is a conspiracy.

You're part of the conspiracy you just don't know it....

What do you think "progress" means?

It means slowly brainwash a population to hate our founding fathers and destroy our civil liberties...

"gun control" 2

"limitations on free speech" 1

"separation of church and state" 1

"warrantless spying" 4

"prop 8" 10

I can go on forever...

Of course when the totalitarians want the Bill of Rights to mean something they will use it - even to the point of contradicting the document - which is pretty much like eating ones own head...

Dude, stop posting when you're high on crack OK?
 
It's part of the communist/totalitarian master plan - if you can tolerate a man who wants to be a woman and accept that as logical - what wouldn't you accept as logical?? -- oh yeah the sentence and idea I just elaborated.

I can vouch for this. It's completely legit. I would know because I'm in on it
 
Having a friend that had to go through this, I know it's hard for Manning to deal with being a man when he/she wants to be a woman.
However, he could have gotten this surgery had he not BROKEN THE FRIKKIN LAW as well. Sorry, but when you break the law, you get a lot of your freedoms taken away.

I thought all he did was reveal the illegal murderings of weaponless people with that apache vid and then "they" used a bunch of news reports to quantify it as thousands and thousands of leaks?
 
I thought all he did was reveal the illegal murderings of weaponless people with that apache vid and then "they" used a bunch of news reports to quantify it as thousands and thousands of leaks?

No, that is not what happened. He didn't just leak ONE thing.
 
Poor liberals having a fit because someone (lol hardly) threatened their precious military.
 
Are you an anarchist?

You sure sound like one.

Manning broke the law.

When people break the law there have to be consequences.

If you don't like the law, you need to try to change it.

But as long as the law is the law, it must be obeyed.

I'm not the totalitarian here...

You obviously have no understanding of "law."

Manning broke "code" not "law" which is exceptionally ironic considering he upheld his oath...

It really shows how tyrannical this government actually is...

A soldier has absolutely ZERO duty to this government - Their oath is "for the people" not "for the government."

As I have stated before - the federal government IS the domestic enemy...
 
No, that is not what happened. He didn't just leak ONE thing.

the guy is an idiot. in a fit of anger he made a random data dump of thousands and thousands of pages of stuff that he didn't even know what most of it was. That's why I find it impossible to attribute any altruistic motives to his actions or consider him a whistleblower...much less a "hero" as some have claimed.
 
I'm not the totalitarian here...

You obviously have no understanding of "law."

Manning broke "code" not "law" which is exceptionally ironic considering he upheld his oath...

It really shows how tyrannical this government actually is...

A soldier has absolutely ZERO duty to this government - Their oath is "for the people" not "for the government."

As I have stated before - the federal government IS the domestic enemy...

sorry nick...but if you are in the military the UCMJ is the law.
 
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