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    re: Bradley Manning is now Chelsea Manning [W:148]

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Bradley Manning is now Chelsea? Does he suffer from mental illness? He is to begin hormone therapy at tax payer expense.

    Bradley Manning: I want to live as a woman* - TODAY.com
    Many people suffer from gender identity issues.
    Probably a tough thing to do being born one gender and forced to live another.
    That being said, limits need to be in place for prisons to provide overly generous
    services; medical, educational or otherwise. Part of the problem might be that
    prisons are big business with private companies providing the services and the
    taxpayers footing the bill.

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    re: Bradley Manning is now Chelsea Manning [W:148]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Do you see CNN following the case? MSNBC, Fox News??
    I haven't watched television news in about 3 months. So no, I have not. It still has absolutely nothing to do with this, now does it?

    If you don't understand what I'm getting at here - I'm merely pointing to the fact that progressives are hypocrites and clearly adhere to double standards...
    An original thesis if I have ever heard one....

    Had Manning done nothing wrong progressives would support his "gender issues" yet he dropped a dime on our tyrannical government and Obama is in office so now progressives are mocking him and are throwing him under the bus.
    Well, fine. That's more than possible among progressives. However, I support the gender change of Manning while glad Manning is going to get a lengthy stint in prison. I see no problem doing either. Perhaps progressives do.

    Get it yet or am I too dense for you?
    Oh no, I'd hardly accuse you of demonstrating density in subject material.
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    re: Bradley Manning is now Chelsea Manning [W:148]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Well, I'll tell you what: I have very little sympathy for this dude, he wasn't drafted into the army, he volunteered with the idea that the military would pay for his college.

    He swore an oath when he joined the U.S. Army, and he broke that oath. Now he is going to pay a price for that.

    I don't see anything unfair about that.

    If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. Pretty ****ing simple.
    Really? Hypothetically "typing" - how would you feel if the government broke down your door, threw you in a cell and no one knew where you were except for one individual? then that individual called "bull****" and exposed the notion you're locked alone in a cell???

    I suppose it's easy to just judge a persons actions from the outside looking in but the perspective is a lot different to victims...

    You sit there snug while the government isn't necessarily attacking you so you don't care...

    You won't get Snowden or Manning until the chickens come home to roost...

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    re: Bradley Manning is now Chelsea Manning [W:148]

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    All prisoners ought to have access to medical treatments. We do much the same for anyone who has a disorder. We don't give preferential treatment of those with depression over those with high functioning autism; or those with X condition over Y condition. It's basic healthcare. And simply because someone's condition seems odder than most, it does not mean that those individuals need to be bashed or attacked.

    In regards to Manning? The military dishonorably discharged Manning, so I do not see how this is applicable. And I don't know if her sentence puts her in the same category as other federal prisoners or not ... meaning I don't know if she would have access to medical treatments or not.


    I believe that Manning is a dual US-UK citizen vis--vis his mother.
    Who is this her and she you are referring to?

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    re: Bradley Manning is now Chelsea Manning [W:148]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I believe that Manning isn't dishonorably discharged until after he has served out his sentence.

    I'm pretty sure that's how it works
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    I believe that is correct. Until he/she serves the sentence, he/she is in the U.S. Army.

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    re: Bradley Manning is now Chelsea Manning [W:148]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Really? Hypothetically "typing" - how would you feel if the government broke down your door, threw you in a cell and no one knew where you were except for one individual? then that individual called "bull****" and exposed the notion you're locked alone in a cell???

    I suppose it's easy to just judge a persons actions from the outside looking in but the perspective is a lot different to victims...

    You sit there snug while the government isn't necessarily attacking you so you don't care...

    You won't get Snowden or Manning until the chickens come home to roost...



    The chickens have come home to roost for Bradley/Chelsea Manning.

    He/she did the crime, now he/she must do the time.

    I don't see anything unfair about that.

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    re: Bradley Manning is now Chelsea Manning [W:148]

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    "Manning is without question mentally ill...."

    Then you should treat her with the respect that you would afford anyone with a mental health issue.
    Progressives have no desire to treat "gender identity issues" as mental illness....

    It's part of the communist/totalitarian master plan - if you can tolerate a man who wants to be a woman and accept that as logical - what wouldn't you accept as logical?? -- oh yeah the sentence and idea I just elaborated.

    To a progressive I'm nuts and the guy who wants to cut his dong off is perfectly sane...

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    re: Bradley Manning is now Chelsea Manning [W:148]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Progressives have no desire to treat "gender identity issues" as mental illness....
    Mental health is wider than having a mental illness.....

    It's part of the communist/totalitarian master plan - if you can tolerate a man who wants to be a woman and accept that as logical - what wouldn't you accept as logical?? -- oh yeah the sentence and idea I just elaborated.

    To a progressive I'm nuts and the guy who wants to cut his dong off is perfectly sane...
    Conspiracy theorist too?
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    re: Bradley Manning is now Chelsea Manning [W:148]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The chickens have come home to roost for Bradley/Chelsea Manning.

    He/she did the crime, now he/she must do the time.

    I don't see anything unfair about that.
    Apparently you truly just don't get it.

    Of course you don't see anything unfair about a military tribunal...

    For some reason I think you would have a different understanding if Madoff was the defendant and Ponzi was the judge.....

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    re: Bradley Manning is now Chelsea Manning [W:148]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The chickens have come home to roost for Bradley/Chelsea Manning.

    He/she did the crime, now he/she must do the time.

    I don't see anything unfair about that.
    Apparently you truly just don't get it.

    Of course you don't see anything unfair about a military tribunal...

    For some reason I think you would have a different understanding if Madoff was the defendant and Ponzi was the judge.....

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