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Bradley Manning is now Chelsea Manning [W:148]

You obviously have no understanding of law because the UCMJ IS LAW for those in the military. In fact the UCMJ is more strict than regular civilian law in many ways.

He broke the law, he's in jail, and he should be happy he didn't what he deserved which would be life.

I was just looking up the sentence. According to several sources, the penalty boils down to 35 years with 3.5 years credit for time served. Good time can knock off several years. Parole eligibility with 1/3 time served.

Manning will be eligible for parole in about 7 years. About long enough to heal from the surgery, get the hormone treatments, and the resutant psycho services needed.
 
in some cases we do particularly certain rights under the 1st and 4th ammendments.

I love how you say "some cases" which is not defined...

I view such **** as "we can attack you and your family any time we want if we feel like it" which the "authorities" er tyrants have and done to US citizens...

I suppose I won't have a problem if I just obey the the alphabet agencies and Obama?

You may as well **** on revolutionary war vets graves next...

You do realize our present government is no more "liberal" than the "English" government during the early to mid 18th century?

We fought a war for a reason.... Progressive politics mock those ideas...

Of course it's easy to talk **** from your snug position....
 
Bradley Manning is now Chelsea Manning

What perfect timing for him!

He actually would be better becoming a pack of cigarettes, as he will be getting passed around like one in the big house.
 
Of course I'm "vulgar" because this is an issue that can construed emotions...

I know the communist/socialist goal is no emotions - look at Mao's China or present day North Korea (just a couple of examples)... No emotion other than fear and loyalty...

Obama is certainly in that realm..





The first time I watched that video of Obama's Youth Brigade back in 2008 or was it 2009 ? It was frightening. This was happening in America ?

When I hear rumors that Obama wants his military to adopt the goose step as part of his changing the face of the U.S. military by using social engineering, it wouldn't surprise.
 
You're kidding with those videos, right? A little kid and members of a frat?

Show me where any US president has EVER been treated as a "dictator/god."

The simple fact those videos were even allowed to happen shows others were involved (and thought they were cute) when in reality they were nothing more than willing totalitarianism - in short those people are so brainwashed they believe Obama is an idol.

Do you not ****ing understand that?

What I posted should scare the **** out of some people.....
 
The first time I watched that video of Obama's Youth Brigade back in 2008 or was it 2009 ? It was frightening. This was happening in America ?

When I hear rumors that Obama wants his military to adopt the goose step as part of his changing the face of the U.S. military by using social engineering, it wouldn't surprise.

Its happening and it doesn't take a brigade to do such - just lack of education and lack of thought or individualism.

Those kids were just pawns... Reminds me of the China Olympics ceremony....
 
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Well, he's about to get 35 years of practice.
 
Also all the prison rape jokes in this thread are hilarious. Great funny stuff. Glad we're all adults.
 
Now if only Snowden would come out of the closet......
 
He did "violate military laws."

However the the Bill of Rights still applies to those in the service - they do NOT waive their civil liberties...

Progressives believe homosexuality and atheism are allegedly protected via the First Amendment (among others) however, Mannings First Amendment rights violate the military?

I think Manning is just throwing dog **** here - using partisan logic just to do so... I would...

It's an attempt to show just how ****ing progressive and partisan our government actually is...

Military personnel do voluntarily give up some of their civil rights. Most notably the first, but also the right to lack of warrantless search, and most of the second, and parts of the rest.. You cannot store your personal weapon in your foot locker. However, all this is irrevalent in this case as he was tried for giving away state secrets, nothing to do with Athiests or homosexuality.

I do think Manning's personal problems, however real or imagined, also are not relevant.
 
Now if only Snowden would come out of the closet......

If I was Snowden I would have been in the US by now....


Well unless the US government is pulling a "Total Recall" on its participants.
 
Military personnel do voluntarily give up some of their civil rights. Most notably the first, but also the right to lack of warrantless search, and most of the second, and parts of the rest.. You cannot store your personal weapon in your foot locker. However, all this is irrevalent in this case as he was tried for giving away state secrets, nothing to do with Athiests or homosexuality.

I do think Manning's personal problems, however real or imagined, also are not relevant.

"some of their rights"

Define "some."

Rational is not so rational is it when you have to work to define...
 
both gay and traitor

We call that "honesty" where I come from...

That's all I wanted to know when it came to your position on the issue.
 
We call that "honesty" where I come from...

That's all I wanted to know when it came to your position on the issue.

we call it any reaction to dishonesty .
 
Too bad he didn't use this for an insanity defense. It might would have worked.
 
I suppose he might change his last name to Womanning or Unmanning?
 
I just can't emphasize enough how much it doesn't matter - nor do most people care - that he is gay or wants to be a female. It doesn't change what he did. I don't support him having his little surgery any more than I support a woman getting breast implants when she's behind bars.

It's a personal effort that one chooses, and it's the last hing we should pay for while they're incarcerated.
 
The first time I watched that video of Obama's Youth Brigade back in 2008 or was it 2009 ? It was frightening. This was happening in America ?

When I hear rumors that Obama wants his military to adopt the goose step as part of his changing the face of the U.S. military by using social engineering, it wouldn't surprise.

Why on earth would Obama need his own army? If things get that bad, are they to be used to protect him and his family, instead of the Secret Service? With nearly everyone in America having guns these days, what good will that do?

Also, while I realize that everyone can't be shown in a picture, I don't see one white face here. Isn't that kinda racist? :eek:
 
we call it any reaction to dishonesty .

Yeah because I have never had a problem with "gangsta blacks" over race for having a "nubian princess" as my lady?....

You know nothing!i

When I was younger and race was the issue of the conflict they thought I was Mexican..... They were still hell-bent on killing white males and groping any female...

Let me guess that's not normal yet she will have a ganbanger on her show or radio to sympathize with.
 
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