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    Obama Does Not Favor Changing Pot Laws … 'At This Point'

    I love it! http://news.yahoo.com/-obama-does-no...VS8GYA5CDQtDMD

    So on the one hand:
    President Barack Obama doesn’t think cracking down on individual pot smokers is a good use of federal dollars, but he also doesn’t think it’s time to loosen the country’s marijuana laws
    But, on the other:
    at least ”at this point.”
    And:
    “The priority in terms of the dedication of law-enforcement resources should be targeted towards drug kingpins, drug traffickers and others who perpetrate violence in the conduct of the drug trade,”
    Then again:
    and not individual users
    Obviously, someone doesn't understand "supply and demand".

    So The Pres says he doesn't want to make an effort going after the demanding abusers, but:
    “the president does not, at this point, advocate a change in the law.”
    Okay .. so it's obvious Obama is attempting to placate a many vote-panderable segments of the issue as possible. We get that. So what he truly wants from a national-best-interest perspective is simply unknown.

    Too bad, as we would like to think The Pres would be clear about what he thinks is in the nation's best interest in the matter.

    Still, abusers of
    “Aunt Mary, BC Bud, Blunts, Boom, Chronic, Dope, Gangster, Ganja, Grass, Hash, Herb, Hydro, Indo, Joint, Kif, Mary Jane, Mota, Pot, Reefer, Sinsemila, Skunk, Smoke, Weed, and Yerba”
    are still abusing a schedule I class drug, a federal offense, because
    Those are “drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse. Schedule I drugs are the most dangerous drugs of all the drug schedules with potentially severe psychological or physical dependence,” the DEA says.
    And the DEA should know, obviously, as they are the experts in the matter, and not likely to lie about the damaging deadly effects of these drugs like, oh, the drug abusers would.

    Yet Obama wants to be lax with these criminals and illegals and the like, as, you know, they tend to vote for his liberal Democrats.

    For the drug abuser, however, though Obama won't be riding the neighborhood range and rustling up stray addicts, he will be cracking down on their feed source, meaning the so-called "drug war" is still in full-force under our executive-order-happy despot.

    So addicts would do well not to push, or they could easily get caught in the crossfire and sent to the pokey.

    Yippee ki-yay, druggies!
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    Re: Obama Does Not Favor Changing Pot Laws … 'At This Point'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    I love it! Obama does not favor changing pot laws

    So on the one hand:

    But, on the other:

    And:

    Then again:

    Obviously, someone doesn't understand "supply and demand".

    So The Pres says he doesn't want to make an effort going after the demanding abusers, but:

    Okay .. so it's obvious Obama is attempting to placate a many vote-panderable segments of the issue as possible. We get that. So what he truly wants from a national-best-interest perspective is simply unknown.

    Too bad, as we would like to think The Pres would be clear about what he thinks is in the nation's best interest in the matter.

    Still, abusers of are still abusing a schedule I class drug, a federal offense, because

    And the DEA should know, obviously, as they are the experts in the matter, and not likely to lie about the damaging deadly effects of these drugs like, oh, the drug abusers would.

    Yet Obama wants to be lax with these criminals and illegals and the like, as, you know, they tend to vote for his liberal Democrats.

    For the drug abuser, however, though Obama won't be riding the neighborhood range and rustling up stray addicts, he will be cracking down on their feed source, meaning the so-called "drug war" is still in full-force under our executive-order-happy despot.

    So addicts would do well not to push, or they could easily get caught in the crossfire and sent to the pokey.

    Yippee ki-yay, druggies!
    Obama does not believe in allowing congress to change laws, that is to hard for a "leader" to do, he feels that it is his job to enforce (or change) the law to be as he feels that it should be.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Obama Does Not Favor Changing Pot Laws … 'At This Point'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    I love it! Obama does not favor changing pot laws

    So on the one hand:

    But, on the other:

    And:

    Then again:

    Obviously, someone doesn't understand "supply and demand".

    So The Pres says he doesn't want to make an effort going after the demanding abusers, but:

    Okay .. so it's obvious Obama is attempting to placate a many vote-panderable segments of the issue as possible. We get that. So what he truly wants from a national-best-interest perspective is simply unknown.

    Too bad, as we would like to think The Pres would be clear about what he thinks is in the nation's best interest in the matter.

    Still, abusers of are still abusing a schedule I class drug, a federal offense, because

    And the DEA should know, obviously, as they are the experts in the matter, and not likely to lie about the damaging deadly effects of these drugs like, oh, the drug abusers would.

    Yet Obama wants to be lax with these criminals and illegals and the like, as, you know, they tend to vote for his liberal Democrats.

    For the drug abuser, however, though Obama won't be riding the neighborhood range and rustling up stray addicts, he will be cracking down on their feed source, meaning the so-called "drug war" is still in full-force under our executive-order-happy despot.

    So addicts would do well not to push, or they could easily get caught in the crossfire and sent to the pokey.

    Yippee ki-yay, druggies!
    Marijuana, and Psilocybin don't meet the definition of schedule 1 narcotics. Plain and simple.
    You have to be pretty misinformed to equate pot with heroine.
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    Re: Obama Does Not Favor Changing Pot Laws … 'At This Point'

    And the DEA should know, obviously, as they are the experts in the matter, and not likely to lie about

    Our government never lies about anything. Ever.

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    Re: Obama Does Not Favor Changing Pot Laws … 'At This Point'

    ...and the OP itself argues against the law of supply and demand. Unless you're suggesting mass executions, the demand will always bring the supply. The real question is what is wise to do about it?

    Most Schedule 1 drugs are those nobody ever heard of. When has somebody slunk up to you and offered you Alpha-methylthiofentanyl

    When will they ever learn?

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    Re: Obama Does Not Favor Changing Pot Laws … 'At This Point'

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Obama does not believe in allowing congress to change laws, that is to hard for a "leader" to do, he feels that it is his job to enforce (or change) the law to be as he feels that it should be.
    Yes, because Congress, particularly those small-government Republicans, have just been chomping at the bit to end the war on drugs, right?
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    Re: Obama Does Not Favor Changing Pot Laws … 'At This Point'

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    ...and the OP itself argues against the law of supply and demand. Unless you're suggesting mass executions, the demand will always bring the supply. The real question is what is wise to do about it?

    Most Schedule 1 drugs are those nobody ever heard of. When has somebody slunk up to you and offered you Alpha-methylthiofentanyl

    When will they ever learn?
    Don't forget that you are talking to a slew of people who still believe in supply-side economics and not demand side. They might not understand what you just said.
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    Re: Obama Does Not Favor Changing Pot Laws … 'At This Point'

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes, because Congress, particularly those small-government Republicans, have just been chomping at the bit to end the war on drugs, right?
    So, even if the federal law is unchanged then the president now has the power to simply ignore it or, worse, to selectively enforce it? Does this power extend to taxation as well? Can the POTUS simply decree that all who owe less than say $10K are no longer "worth" prosecuting? Why even have a legislative branch if the executive is now free to add, change or delete the letter of the law that congress passed and that he, or past presidents, have signed?
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    Re: Obama Does Not Favor Changing Pot Laws … 'At This Point'

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    So, even if the federal law is unchanged then the president now has the power to simply ignore it or, worse, to selectively enforce it? Does this power extend to taxation as well? Can the POTUS simply decree that all who owe less than say $10K are no longer "worth" prosecuting? Why even have a legislative branch if the executive is now free to add, change or delete the letter of the law that congress passed and that he, or past presidents, have signed?
    Yes, actually, the IRS can do this. Under powers granted to them by Congress. They often waive penalties if you just pay what you owe because "**** it," basically.

    That's the part a lot of people don't realize about the executive branch: Congress grants them a lot more discretion than most people realize. Because congress doesn't want to be bothered with every little freaking detail. Like, the FAA tells me I can't fly below certain altitudes. Congress never signed any law regarding that.
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    Re: Obama Does Not Favor Changing Pot Laws … 'At This Point'

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes, actually, the IRS can do this. Under powers granted to them by Congress. They often waive penalties if you just pay what you owe because "**** it," basically.

    That's the part a lot of people don't realize about the executive branch: Congress grants them a lot more discretion than most people realize. Because congress doesn't want to be bothered with every little freaking detail. Like, the FAA tells me I can't fly below certain altitudes. Congress never signed any law regarding that.
    That is actually very scary when you think about it. So the president could simply decide not to bother with all of that "detail" and order the FAA to outlaw/deny all commercial use of U.S. airspace - say to prevent CO2 "pollution" or to prevent terroists from trying to (ab)use those aircraft?
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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