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    Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    No he will not as Obama has led a massive war on whistleblowers. (Obama Wages War on Whistleblowers and Journalists - SPIEGEL ONLINE)

    The architect of Obama's harshness in regards to whistleblowers has said “My background is in the Navy, and it is good to hang an admiral once in a while as an example to the others." (https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...-example.shtml)

    So, no unfortunately Manning will most likely not be pardoned.
    Unfortunately?
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    Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    I do not consider what he did to be a bad thing and actually am glad he did it.
    What he did was illegal and put your countrymen's life at risk.

    Shame on you.
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    Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Can someone refresh me on what this guys crimes are that deserves the 35 years?
    Treason.

    It seems he just was a whistleblower, I'm just not understanding what more there is to it.
    He took an oath to safeguard the classified information he had access to. Breaking that oath is illegal...and treason.

    I don't know the details, maybe he released it the wrong way that was criminal... In which case he deserves to go to jail, but I thought that blowing the whistle on wrong doing was like a duty, not something to be vilified?
    He didn't "blow the whistle" he compromised national security.

    I think better questions to consider would be; how come there are so many whistleblowers lately? And how come the government is acting to crack down on those whistleblowers??

    But, maybe I've just missed the facts of the case that show this man guilty...
    Yes, you've missed the facts.
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    Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    What he did was illegal and put your countrymen's life at risk.

    Shame on you.
    Not to mention he revealed diplomatic cables that contained insulting commentary about our allies and gossip about our allies, which embarrassed us and probably has harmed our diplomatic relations.

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    Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    What he did was illegal and put your countrymen's life at risk.

    Shame on you.
    No, it didn't, and that was one of the things the prosecution could not provide a single example of. Shame on you for getting caught up in propaganda and flag waving when the worst that was done to you was educating you on what your government was doing and not telling you like double taps, killing civilians, and killing children.

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    Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    That disgraceful dirty fact isn't a secret. The Japanese protest every young girl rape. demand the offending sailor/marine be turned over and are rebuffed.

    Been going on waaaay before your 'social engineering' so quit blaming it for everything.

    Status of forces is no secret.

    I do note you have dropped any debate and just fell back to your 'alamo' social engineering position...


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    You hiding behind the progressive label don't want to go any further on this dirty little secret that has been going on Okinawa for almost 60 years.

    The Department of the Navy and the Navy and Marine Corps couldn't take care of the problem probably because it would be unconstitutional.

    I'm sure you noticed that there's little problem with the airmen stationed over at Kadena AFB or the Marines at the MCAS Futenma. So who exactly are these rapist ?

    What happens on the Rock stays on the Rock. It's a dirty little secret.

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    Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    No, it didn't, and that was one of the things the prosecution could not provide a single example of. Shame on you for getting caught up in propaganda and flag waving when the worst that was done to you was educating you on what your government was doing and not telling you like double taps, killing civilians, and killing children.
    You are confused. What they couldn't prove is that he intentionally aided the enemy. He did endanger American and allied lives through the intentional release of classified information. Which I am certain you have no capacity of understanding.
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    Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Treason.

    He took an oath to safeguard the classified information he had access to. Breaking that oath is illegal...and treason.
    Sounds debatable, but assuming the trial was honest, he was found guilty, at least on lesser charges...

    He didn't "blow the whistle" he compromised national security.



    Yes, you've missed the facts.
    Well, he at least handled it the wrong way, but regardless, it's dangerous to blow the whistle these days.

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    Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Sounds debatable, but assuming the trial was honest, he was found guilty, at least on lesser charges...
    It would only sound debatable to someone that doesn't understand the laws behind safegaurding classified information or in having a security clearance.

    Well, he at least handled it the wrong way, but regardless, it's dangerous to blow the whistle these days.
    It's dangerous to commit treason in any days.
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    Re: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    You are confused. What they couldn't prove is that he intentionally aided the enemy. He did endanger American and allied lives through the intentional release of classified information. Which I am certain you have no capacity of understanding.
    No, they could not show a single instance of harm when asked to do so during his sentencing. They had absolutely no evidence any person was harmed or put in danger due to the revalations, and it has been years, and I am sure they have been looking for something to blame him for. You are completely wrong. You are however correct in that I do lack the understanding that would lead me to a wrong conclusion like yours. I am not bothered by being right and not understanding your vindictive hatred of manning.

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