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    Re: Bill Clinton foundation has spent more than $50M on travel expenses

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Oh look they're circling the wagons. Surprise!
    Whose money is it? It's between the Clintons and their donors.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Bill Clinton foundation has spent more than $50M on travel expenses

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good morning, humbolt.

    I guess that life is nothing but a game to folks like this, always scheming to get more and more! I'm sure that everything they do is legal, so I assume that when you only have over $100 million dollars in your piggy bank, all that's left to do is scheme to get more. BTW, did they get enough donations from the Joe Schmoes of this world to pay the vendors from her 2008 campaign yet? She apparently didn't have the money, poor thing! :
    Good morning, Pol. The Clintons didn't have any money when they started their political climb, but they surely rubbed elbows with those who did. I expect that has driven them to accumulate all they can now in order to immerse themselves in the life style they so admired. I remember when Liberace used to go around to his audience and show them his elaborate rings, asking, "Do you like that? You should. You paid for it." Everything the op mentions is completely legal, and as long as the Clintons can get others to pay for their life, more power to them. They're no different than the stereotypical evangelist in that regard. The last I read, Hillary had not paid all the vendors. Maybe she has by now. Paying bills operates on a completely different time scale than collecting them for some. The lesson is to choose your clients carefully. The Clintons wouldn't be on my list.

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    Re: Bill Clinton foundation has spent more than $50M on travel expenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Spreading facts is circling the wagons now? Can you point out one thing he said that was untrue?
    It was pointed out that as a charitable foundation, those donating money receive a tax rebate or incentive to do so, so in effect, the foundation is taking money from the treasury of the United States. If then, that money is being misused in any way, that becomes an issue for the American people as a whole.

    So, to your point, Rocket claiming that it's not "government" money and not "your" money is partly untrue.
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    Re: Bill Clinton foundation has spent more than $50M on travel expenses

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Ehhh...if you think Bill or Hillary are liberal progressives you're crazy. They may be socially liberal but their economics are definitely pro-Wall Street and AT LEAST centrist (I'd argue conservative). It was the Clintons that led the Democratic party shift to the center and catered to big Wall Street firms.
    Gotta love liberals who practically disown their heroes and their politics when those heroes aren't in office - Clintons aren't liberal enough - LOL. Sounds a lot like the bleating that Obama isn't liberal enough. Makes you wonder what a liberal thinks is liberal enough.
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    Re: Bill Clinton foundation has spent more than $50M on travel expenses

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Gotta love liberals who practically disown their heroes and their politics when those heroes aren't in office - Clintons aren't liberal enough - LOL. Sounds a lot like the bleating that Obama isn't liberal enough. Makes you wonder what a liberal thinks is liberal enough.
    I'm not disowning him. The Democratic party is a big tent that is typically socially liberal but on economic concerns range from leftist to extreme centrist.

    Remember "Welfare to Work"...or how about the "Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act"?

    The Democratic party is not the Republican party. There's no lock step marching orders that everyone has to adhere to or you're primaried. In fact the "left" is marginalized in the Democratic party (for economics) because the big Wall Street socially liberal investors have so much sway.
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    Re: Bill Clinton foundation has spent more than $50M on travel expenses

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I'm not disowning him. The Democratic party is a big tent that is typically socially liberal but on economic concerns range from leftist to extreme centrist.

    Remember "Welfare to Work"...or how about the "Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act"?

    The Democratic party is not the Republican party. There's no lock step marching orders that everyone has to adhere to or you're primaried. In fact the "left" is marginalized in the Democratic party (for economics) because the big Wall Street socially liberal investors have so much sway.
    Really? Joe Libermann will be happy to note that the Democrats are such a big tent party.
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    Re: Bill Clinton foundation has spent more than $50M on travel expenses

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Really? Joe Libermann will be happy to note that the Democrats are such a big tent party.
    I hope you honestly are not comparing the loss of Libermann's primary to the situation in the Republican party at the moment.
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    Re: Bill Clinton foundation has spent more than $50M on travel expenses

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I hope you honestly are not comparing the loss of Libermann's primary to the situation in the Republican party at the moment.
    Why not?

    Can you identify anything on the Republican side that even remotely compares to a party primarying out its Vice-President nominee in the next election cycle? If the Republicans in Wisconsin primary out Paul Ryan, then you might have a point.
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    Re: Bill Clinton foundation has spent more than $50M on travel expenses

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Gotta love liberals who practically disown their heroes and their politics when those heroes aren't in office - Clintons aren't liberal enough - LOL. Sounds a lot like the bleating that Obama isn't liberal enough. Makes you wonder what a liberal thinks is liberal enough.
    We won't know until we get there. It's really up to Madame Pelosi to make that determination unless or until Hillary takes over. Then she'll tell us. These definitions and destinations are to remain nebulous for the time being. Why do you ask, grasshopper?

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    Re: Bill Clinton foundation has spent more than $50M on travel expenses

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    We won't know until we get there. It's really up to Madame Pelosi to make that determination unless or until Hillary takes over. Then she'll tell us. These definitions and destinations are to remain nebulous for the time being. Why do you ask, grasshopper?
    I'm just a lowly grasshopper trying to be heard over all the noisy crickets.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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