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Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens - just because[W:189:219]

Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

Of course whites won't march in the street over racism in this case, not much wiggle room for these guys to have white folks worried they will get away with killin' another white man. The long history of our grand and glorious Republic has given White folks a most excellent reason to truly believe 'justice' will be handled out to the murderers. There isn't much history of all black juries letting black murderers off even in the face of a mountain of evidence. White folks can't claim the same.

The cries or racism and outrage along racial lines seem to be coming from OUTSIDE my home state. I am kinda proud of us Okies in this case. Guess we figure there are a lot of reasons for kids to turn bad and do outrageously vile things.

I have noted some right wing kook websites attempting to push the race agenda- the WND posting pics of three very dark boys as the three suspects when we know that is wrong- did anyone ever apologize for that or explain how that happened?

So while some are quick to post the 'whitie' facebook slurs I wonder if these thundercats did the same with blacks? Most thuggers think they can take on the world so they are just as abusive to 'their own kind' as any other race of social group. Might not be quite the racism as just attack words, like say down in the basement here, using gay slurs to get personal with other men, or calling all women skanks, or unable to vote 'logically'.

Anywho, I don't think the fairer skinned folks in Duncan have to worry about the three kids being charged and standing trial like the folks in Florida worried about.

Murder has the same definition whether the person is white, black, brown, red, or purple. Murder is murder, is murder, is murder. These three boys will get a trial by jury just like anyone else, and the jurors, not public opinion, will determine their fate. I understand why people may personally feel that that the system is unfair based on previous slights real or perceived, but the day we determine murder cases based on people's feelings rather then facts is the day I'll be renouncing my citizenship of this country.
 
Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

Why should they?

They shouldn't. But nether should people over TM, imo. Were he white, under the exact same circumstances, no one would care. Were the shooter black, under the exact same circumstances, no one would care.
 
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White people are just as bad when it comes to being criminals. .

Not in percentage of the population.
Negroes commit over half of ALL violent crime in the u.s. despite only being 13% of the population.

Statistics
*More than 1,600 Whites are murdered by Blacks each year. Blacks murder Whites at 18 times the rate Whites murder Blacks.
*About 1 million Whites were murdered, robbed, assaulted, or raped by Blacks in 1992
*In the last 30 years, 170 million violent and nonviolent crimes were committed by Blacks against Whites in the U.S.
*Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than Whites, although they comprise only one-seventh of the White population.
*27 million nonviolent crimes were committed in the U.S. in 1992 alone. 31% of the robberies involved Black offenders and White victims; only 2% involved White offenders and Black victims.
The above stats were collected by an Australian reporter, Neil Sheehan, for an article in the Sydney Morning Herald (May 2, 1995).


Paved With Good Intentions, a book by Jared Taylor, also studies crime statistics by race. It must be stressed that Blacks make up only 12% of the population according to the 1990 U.S. census (and Black males about 6%), but they commit a vastly disproportionate number of violent crime.
Mr. Taylor reveals:
1) 58% of all arrests for weapons violations are Blacks.
2) 46% of all arrests for violent crimes are Blacks.
3) 73% of all “justified self-defense” killings are committed by Blacks.
4) 60.5% of all Blacks are armed with some type of weapon at all times.
5) 98% of all youths arrested for gun fights in Atlanta are Blacks.


Here are some accurate stats according to population and race. You'll notice a hugely disproportionate number of blacks are represented.
Remember, percentage is the key. Going solely by raw data, USUALLY whites commit more crime.It stands to reason. There are more whites in america than negroes..but notice that as a smaller percentage of the population more crimes are committed by blacks

Fewer blacks but higher numbers, see?

Table 43 - Crime in the United States 2006
Table 49 - Crime in the United States 2006
Table 55 - Crime in the United States 2006
Table 61 - Crime in the United States 2006
Table 67 - Crime in the United States 2006

FBI — Table 43

It's irrefutable. The FBI doesn't "lie" and they aren't "racist".
 
Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

Well if yer down under this is a Ute
I'm using it here like APACHERAT does.
what do they call em down in the Heart of Dixie?
 
Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

Then why are you whining about it?

I'm whining, because in the opposite situation there would be people marching in the streets. Could you imagine if three white kids went and killed a non-white because they were "bored" and "wanted to experience killing someone"... ? People would be marching, if not rioting, in the streets. I'm whining because if we want to be a post-race society we can't be judging these situations strictly on the basis of race. Which is what happens far too often.
 
Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

I'm whining, because in the opposite situation there would be people marching in the streets. Could you imagine if three white kids went and killed a non-white because they were "bored" and "wanted to experience killing someone"... ? People would be marching, if not rioting, in the streets. I'm whining because if we want to be a post-race society we can't be judging these situations strictly on the basis of race. Which is what happens far too often.

Really? Where were the riots following this crime in the same state?

Two white Oklahoma men confess to shooting five black pedestrians in Good Friday killing spree, cops say - NY Daily News
 
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That was last year around the same time people were marching in the streets over TM and "all racially motivated crime." So technically, that includes this case, just not specifically.

Were that to happen today, post acquittal of GZ, and they said "we did it because we were bored," I'm willing to bet it would cause a national uproar... I have an itch that people are just waiting for the next TM story at the moment.
 
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Anywho, I don't think the fairer skinned folks in Duncan have to worry about the three kids being charged and standing trial like the folks in Florida worried about.

Folks all over the world fretted and the case was made a cause celebre simply because Sharpton, Obama and Jackson involved themselves. But ultimately, after all the expense, hubbub and publicity the jury arrived at the identical conclusion as the initial police investigation and said, rightly, that the case should never have been brought to trial. Was the 'stand your own ground' law involved in any way in this latest case? Probably not.
 
Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

Folks all over the world fretted and the case was made a cause celebre simply because Sharpton, Obama and Jackson involved themselves. But ultimately, after all the expense, hubbub and publicity the jury arrived at the identical conclusion as the initial police investigation and said, rightly, that the case should never have been brought to trial. Was the 'stand your own ground' law involved in any way in this latest case? Probably not.

All due respect, but SYG wasn't involved in the zimmerman case. The defense did NOT use it.
 
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All due respect, but SYG wasn't involved in the zimmerman case. The defense did NOT use it.


Right, they did not. But the law was still there and it must have played a roll in the initial police investigation. The jury recognized that it was clearly a case of self defense, as did most any rational person, and the Zimmerman defense did not need the SYG anyway.

Thanks for the 'all due respect' by the way!!
 
Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

Right, they did not. But the law was still there and it must have played a roll in the initial police investigation. The jury recognized that it was clearly a case of self defense, as did most any rational person, and the Zimmerman defense did not need the SYG anyway.

Thanks for the 'all due respect' by the way!!

I think the reason they didn't use it was if they had a SYG hearing it would have occurred BEFORE the trial started..if they had a favorable ruling, the charges would have been dropped...but..if the judge denied, then they would have tipped their hand to the prosecution as to how they intended to defend zimmerman..it was a crapshoot. Obviously, in retrospect, they made the right choice...
 
Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

I'm whining, because in the opposite situation there would be people marching in the streets. Could you imagine if three white kids went and killed a non-white because they were "bored" and "wanted to experience killing someone"... ? People would be marching, if not rioting, in the streets. I'm whining because if we want to be a post-race society we can't be judging these situations strictly on the basis of race. Which is what happens far too often.

Since you seem unable to predict things that are happening, I doubt your ability to predict things that have yet to occur.

And your claim to desire a post-race society is proven to be a lie by your constant race-baiting and imaginary victimhood
 
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Stop confusing him with facts!!

He's already got enough on his plate trying to create a society that doesn't judge things strictly on the basis of race by judging crimes and the reactions they get strictly on the basis of race
 
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Since you seem unable to predict things that are happening, I doubt your ability to predict things that have yet to occur.

And your claim to desire a post-race society is proven to be a lie by your constant race-baiting and imaginary victimhood

Oh really? Please, make my day.
 
Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

Stop confusing him with facts!!

He's already got enough on his plate trying to create a society that doesn't judge things strictly on the basis of race by judging crimes and the reactions they get strictly on the basis of race

Really now? People were marching in the streets over TM strictly based on their perceptions of what happened because of his race was my doing? :roll:
 
Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

Stop confusing him with facts!!

He's already got enough on his plate trying to create a society that doesn't judge things strictly on the basis of race by judging crimes and the reactions they get strictly on the basis of race

He asserted that the TM protests somehow covered this as well. ;)
 
Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

Set aside politics for a second...

This case was certainly a "hate crime" however the reality is that these teenagers thought they were bored - now they have 25 (at minimum) years of bordem ahead of them.. Well that is unless real gangsters get a hold of them (which they will)....

These kids have two choices now "be gangsters" in the joint or "be bitches."

Their wannabe "manhood" is over or it has just begun - either way they're getting screwed...

They're pawn "bitches" amongst their new peers now.
 
Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

Set aside politics for a second...

This case was certainly a "hate crime" however the reality is that these teenagers thought they were bored - now they have 25 (at minimum) years of bordem ahead of them.. Well that is unless real gangsters get a hold of them (which they will)....

These kids have two choices now "be gangsters" in the joint or "be bitches."

Their wannabe "manhood" is over or it has just begun - either way they're getting screwed...

They're pawn "bitches" amongst their new peers now.

My..how terrible for them...Poor little kids...

I wonder how Chris Lane's family, friends, teammates, fiance feels about these poor boys future?
 
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My..how terrible for them...Poor little kids...

I wonder how Chris Lane's family, friends, teammates, fiance feels about these poor boys future?

Agreed. Just saying tho.

I suppose my point was a "hate crime" would just be the exclamation point on the sentence...

In the end they will get their cup of tea....

Sure the fact they weren't charged with a hate crime really shows how biased our "system(s)" are but that still doesn't change the fact that these kids will get hell - and rightly so.
 
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Agreed. Just saying tho.

I suppose my point was a "hate crime" would just be the exclamation point on the sentence...

In the end they will get their cup of tea....

Sure the fact they weren't charged with a hate crime really shows how biased our "system(s)" are but that still doesn't change the fact that these kids will get hell - and rightly so.

Oh..Ok..Sorry for being abrasive...The whole thing pisses me off almost beyond words....
 
Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

Oh..Ok..Sorry for being abrasive...The whole thing pisses me off almost beyond words....

The only way these "bored" teenagers will ever see the light of day again is if they allow themselves to be "bitches" in prison or spend the next 25 years of their life in solitary confinement.... The only other option for them is to become "bitches" and commit murders for their prison gangs which will gain them more charges and the will never get out..

Either way they will wish going out like Christopher Lane was that simple...

I will say tho - it is sad that at the age of 15,16 or 17 you can decide your fate - not that they don't deserve what they get.
 
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Really now? People were marching in the streets over TM strictly based on their perceptions of what happened because of his race was my doing? :roll:

No, but your reaction to these crimes are determined strictly on the basis of race which was your doing, and it was hypocritical to do after whining about how people react strictly on the basis of race
 
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