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    Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    How do you feel about the idea of having a healthy balance. I agree that discipline is very important but I think you have to make certain they know you believe in them and love them.

    I was a single mom and had pretty naive views of what it takes to raise a boy. (My son was a challenge. ) When I signed him up for peewee football and saw the way the coaches interacted with him, they won his respect by being good examples and by being firm but keeping his age in perspective. It was a sort of quite authority?? They didn't have to scream or push him around or bully him into submission or try to "control" him. It taught me the difference (at least the stereotype held true for my son) between girls and boys. My son needed that firm hand. He was very lucky to have found it there. Makes me wonder .... how do we provide that kind of guidance and fatherly presence for other boys who do not have it. Seems like to smartest way to effect real change in such kids.
    Part of discipline is acknowledging good behavior. When your kids comes through a tough situation having made good decisions you need to let them know that just as when you let them know about the bad decisions.

    Discipline and control are two different things. Control is the use of coercive force to get someone to do what you want them to. Discipline is getting them to do the things you want them to because they want to do them.

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    Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I cannot believe what I am reading. Almost 200 posts in this thread and all but a handful are yapping about Zimmerman/Martin and what color the three teenagers in Oklahoma were. A young man is gunned down because a bunch of thuggish teens were "bored", and all you petty lot can do is whine about whether the "white" teenager has some black in him, and a Florida case that is as far from this incident as purple is from yellow on the color spectrum.

    Those of you who are ignoring this tragedy to insert your own racial/political spin should be utterly ashamed of yourselves... although if you actually had any shame or decency, you wouldn't have posted such tripe in the first place.

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    Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    I am saying perhaps these kids, wherever they are, could benefit from a cultural norm of rite of passage. It is not Albanian typical thing. Someone told me the rite of passage exists in Texas too.

    It is essentially how one becomes a man by issuing a gun. He takes the responsibilities with having a gun and being a man, rather than a teenager with a gun whom just wanted to make fun by killing just anyone this day.
    Makes no sense.
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    Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    You don't have to say something directly to imply a position....
    I only implied that position in your head. Same place all of your arguments happen. You argue with the voices in your head more than you do with any people on this board.


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    Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    This is a straight up occurrence of black on white crime, it will be forgotten by this time next week.
    It will be, but not for the reasons you think it will be. Justice IS being served, the murderers WERE arrested and charged. Therefore, there is no controversy, and that's why it will be forgotten.


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    Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I only implied that position in your head. Same place all of your arguments happen. You argue with the voices in your head more than you do with any people on this board.
    Really? then why is this case not FRONT PAGE NEWS right now??

    So Zimmerman shooting a black gangster dope addicted aggressive punk was front page news for the last 6 months but this case is swept under the ****ing rug in less than a day....

    No it's only in your head....

    This is an open and shut case considering the little black punks confessed to premeditated murder (First Degree Murder) - hence there is no ****ing debate here.

    So I ask where the **** is the progressive media when 3 black kids murder a white college baseball player???

    Oh yea - its a non-****ing issue... Yesterdays news...

    Of course you don't give a ****!

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    Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Really? then why is this case not FRONT PAGE NEWS right now??

    So Zimmerman shooting a black gangster dope addicted aggressive punk was front page news for the last 6 months but this case is swept under the ****ing rug in less than a day....

    No it's only in your head....

    This is an open and shut case considering the little black punks confessed to premeditated murder (First Degree Murder) - hence there is no ****ing debate here.

    So I ask where the **** is the progressive media when 3 black kids murder a white college baseball player???

    Oh yea - its a non-****ing issue... Yesterdays news...

    Of course you don't give a ****!
    You're missing the point completely. They have been arrested and charged. Therefore, there is no need to "call for justice." You are the one making this about Zimmerman and about race.

    The alleged perps in this case have been arrested and charged, and are sitting in a jail cell. What do you want? A race war? Jesse Jackson to scream for something which is being done? This has gotten plenty of coverage on CNN and many other main stream media outlets. It's pretty much been front page news. You're butthurt because of the attention a non-white guy (Zimmerman) got? Grow the **** up! Zimmerman was not front page for six months, except here where people obsessed over it.

    The justice system is working in this case. Assuming these ****ers are convicted, they're going to be in jail for a long time. What exactly, would make you happy here?


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    Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It's a problem that the majority of the Black community is failing to address, and of course political opportunists will charge that 'racism' is always the cause. But it's not a 'race' problem, it's a cultural problem.
    A cultural problem? As in the black culture is violent? I've got news for you. Has nothing to do with anybody's culture, and has everything to do with bad kids. Color doesn't factor into this. The last neighborhood I lived in had a lot of drive by shootings, and there were lots of white people living there. I moved last month to an area of Houston called Sunnyside, which happens to be 99% black. Guess what? There are no drive by shootings here at all. There is a church on almost every block, people say hi to me every day, and everybody is nice. But I suppose I could play the race card too, and make the claim that, since there were white people in my last neighborhood, that violence is a problem with white culture. LOL.

    Seriously, the view that violence has to do with black culture at all is ****ing pathetic. Yes, I will say it. It's ****ing racist as hell.
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    Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

    I'm sure that is what they are thinkin' in Oz
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    Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

    Blacks are 10x moire aggressive than whites.

    The best part is that whites just "bottle it up" better then blacks and can deal with it better......

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