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    Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    How it makes the US look? You think Aussies are going to hold the entire US responsible for the actions of three evil assholes? That's ridiculous.

    I can tell you that the family of the young man are very grateful to his American friends and family for embracing their son during his time in the. They are not ashamed.

    From my post in the poll thread.
    It's called pride. Like Angryoldman, this is embarressing.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The quality of a conscripted army is lower than an all volunteer army. The quality of the average soldier will go down and so will the quality of training.
    True, but if you're not cut out to be a soldier you should be able to do another kind of service. The military could still be people who volunteered to do that rather than something else.

    What if the National Guard counted as service, and your role in the NG is to go and help in disaster recovery? We could have a standing "army" of disaster recovery people or people to fight wildfires.


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    Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

    Quote Originally Posted by FederalRepublic View Post
    I couldn't write a parody piece on the lefties' view of the Zimmerman case any better than that. Good show.
    It writes itself, I've seen waaaay too many little big men strutting around thinking carrying a pistol makes up for a lifetime of never having mixed it up. Young rookie cops have this same tendency, never had much experience mixing it up so when push comes to shove they tend to either shy away or panic with deadly force the only option they can think of.

    Even the most ardent right winger has to admit 'hero' Zimmerman screamed like a little girl when his stalk didn't go the way he always fantasized it would.

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    Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Okay well, while you try to figure out how to deal with that . . . I'll just get more and more tired of hearing people even bring 'control' up.

    Thug control - gun control - whatever . . . . isn't it just obvious we have a serious, huge, problem in our society where kids just go around randomly killing people just because they thought it was fun? That's not even thug behavior, that's just - I don't know - there's something inhuman about that.
    Not all kids are doing that. It's not fair to lump the good ones in with the bad.

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    Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    when a kid calls his grandmama "mommy" and his mother "Pam"....he's going to jail. What is the one thing that most of these kids have in common? no father in their lives. call me old fashioned, sexist, whatever...but how in the hell can you expect a boy to grow into a responsible man when there is never a responsible man in his life to give guidance and example?
    Yes.

    I've been saying this on another thread, and people are just out of their minds when they hear it. Women need to return to the home. Kids need a strong father and a mother who's home, they don't need to be raised by grandparents, they don't need a mom who's going for a degree, they don't need a mom who is working 2 jobs who doesn't have a man, etc.

    We need to re-emphasize the strong, nuclear family.

    That means turning back the clock on certain things that people take for granted... like women's vote for example. There is no reason women should have the vote - it's only proven to be destructive in the long run.

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    Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's called pride. Like Angryoldman, this is embarressing.
    He's not the first foreigner to come to the wild west and get shot, and certainly won't be the last.

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    Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    How it makes the US look? You think Aussies are going to hold the entire US responsible for the actions of three evil assholes? That's ridiculous.
    They sure will. Americans already have the reputation of a bunch of low educated gun totin' cowboys anyway, and this will only enhance that sort if opinion, especially among the Aussie left, who are always critical of the US anyway. Much like the Canadian Left and American left as well, come to think of it.
    I can tell you that the family of the young man are very grateful to his American friends and family for embracing their son during his time in the. They are not ashamed.
    Oh yes, they will know better because they are in direct contact with the families involved and understand their grief. But that's not what the average Aussie who's watching the local media is going to think.

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    Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    In our refusal to enforce civilization and social mores upon rising generation, we have succeeded in raising up a not-insignificant number of feral humans, distinguishable from sociopaths mostly in the twinges of emotion they feel after the deed.
    This reminds me of the other thread in which we discussed the value of individualism vs collectivism in our country, and how focusing on one has watered down the unavoidable importance of the other.

    Why don't I want to kill someone for fun? I can write up a long list of reasons. Some of which involve the view society would have of me, and how I wouldn't want to be see *as that type of person* - overall, I would assume I would be caught, and punished.

    These boys had no reasons. I wonder what their list would look like. I place my bets on an assumption that they would not be caught and punished.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Not all kids are doing that. It's not fair to lump the good ones in with the bad.
    I know they're not. I might have failed to quantify, but do you honestly believe I actually meant *all children* which would include all four of my own? Of course not.
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    Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    True, but if you're not cut out to be a soldier you should be able to do another kind of service. The military could still be people who volunteered to do that rather than something else.

    What if the National Guard counted as service, and your role in the NG is to go and help in disaster recovery? We could have a standing "army" of disaster recovery people or people to fight wildfires.
    Public sector unions would never allow that.

    National gaurd troops are soldiers, too. Not to mention, the national guard is funded mostly by the states and I can't see the states forking out the extra cash.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Show up and march over what subject exactly? Seems the killers were
    arrested and confessed so I don't see the issue. Am I missing something?
    Yea the backwards coverage of not only a senseless killing but the total disregard of the culture that creates cold blooded killers in their teens.

    Go read the face book post of the suspects, they're filled with generic and typical anti-social and mysogonistic and violent statements that can be attributed back to the "thug life" culture and rap music.

    But issues like that, music and the celebration of gang life is a topic we need to steer clear from.

    It's poisoning millions of kids but our President " Knows Jay-Z".

    How twisted this Country has become.

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