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    Re: Diplomats in Benghazi Debacle Back on Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Mizmo View Post
    Diplomats punished for Benghazi back on job | Fox News

    Four Americans dead, government cover-up, lies and deception at the highest levels, corruption, no accountability and American credibility in further decline. Diplomats reinstated after a year long paid vacation! Sick!
    4 dead is horrible to you, but you probably thought a second Bush term was a great idea. Please, keep the faux outrage and get another issue. this is a non-issue. You never freaked out under other presidents who had a lot more embassy attacks and deaths than obama has. You did not say it was sick that a president ignores dire warnings that lead to the largest terror attack and over 3000 dead civilians on US soil. You never freaked out over the thousands of soldiers who gave their lives in a goose chase for WMDs that never existed. Now 4 people dead is sick. Seriously, you sound like jim Carrey protesting kickass 2.

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    Re: Diplomats in Benghazi Debacle Back on Job

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    Faux.
    lol. also known as BNN.

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    Re: Diplomats in Benghazi Debacle Back on Job

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    4 dead is horrible to you, but you probably thought a second Bush term was a great idea. Please, keep the faux outrage and get another issue. this is a non-issue. You never freaked out under other presidents who had a lot more embassy attacks and deaths than obama has. You did not say it was sick that a president ignores dire warnings that lead to the largest terror attack and over 3000 dead civilians on US soil. You never freaked out over the thousands of soldiers who gave their lives in a goose chase for WMDs that never existed. Now 4 people dead is sick. Seriously, you sound like jim Carrey protesting kickass 2.
    Wake Up.....No one said anything about Buuuuuuuuuuusssssshhhhhh.

    How do you know he never freaked out about all those people killed at Embassies when Bilbo the Clown was in office? Another Democrat. The reason he did not say he was sick that a president ignores dire warning that lead to the largest terror attack and over 3000 dead civilians. Was due to the issue of no one bringing anything up.

    Again how do you know he never freaked out over the thousands of soldiers who gave their lives in a goose chase for WMDs that never existed. How do you he is not freaked out by the Obama Policy in Afghanistan that has lead to more deaths than even Under Buuuuuuuuuuuusssssshhhhhh. As well as to a policy that allows our people to get shot in the back.

    Now 4 people dead and one being a US Ambassador.....which came from a Direct and purposeful attack. Which btw.....is an Act of War.

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    Re: Diplomats in Benghazi Debacle Back on Job

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Wake Up.....No one said anything about Buuuuuuuuuuusssssshhhhhh.
    Actually he said it was sick, and in comparison with what has happened in the past 4 people dying in a consulate attack is relatively good compared to past presidents including Bush, Clinton, Daddy Bush, and Reagan. If you are going to be all overdramatic about 4 people dying it might be good to have some consistency because i am pretty sure given the OPs dramatic overreaction he probably should have poured gasoline on himself and lit himself on fire in protest long before obama came into office. If you want to take obama out of context with history that is your choice, but some of us might actually realize it was not sick and considering the past it was actually an improvement from how our presidents normally sacrifice lives.
    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    How do you know he never freaked out about all those people killed at Embassies when Bilbo the Clown was in office? Another Democrat. The reason he did not say he was sick that a president ignores dire warning that lead to the largest terror attack and over 3000 dead civilians. Was due to the issue of no one bringing anything up.
    Yeah, I am not buying that one. We all know benghazi is the hypocrite cry of the right wing drama queens. I am not even close to that gullible and the OP most definitally did not whine during past republican presidents and their sick errors. I can buy he whined during the clinton administration.
    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Again how do you know he never freaked out over the thousands of soldiers who gave their lives in a goose chase for WMDs that never existed. How do you he is not freaked out by the Obama Policy in Afghanistan that has lead to more deaths than even Under Buuuuuuuuuuuusssssshhhhhh. As well as to a policy that allows our people to get shot in the back.
    Believe me, i have no doubt in my mind he did not freak out. As a matyter of fact I have absolutely no doubt he considers those men heroes and that they died for an important cause. Please, if i was that gullible I probably would not be here and would be emailing my bank account info to some nigerian prince.
    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Now 4 people dead and one being a US Ambassador.....which came from a Direct and purposeful attack. Which btw.....is an Act of War.
    BTW it happened many more times and with many more casualties under the last 5 presidents and then some. 4 is actually an improvement, and even the Bush boys completely ignored those acts of war, and the younger one was distracted from those acts by the imaginary WMDs he made up. Which is worse to you, 4 people dead from a poorly secured consulate in a country we helped to free, or thousands dead because our president is such a boob he bought a lie he made up?

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    Re: Diplomats in Benghazi Debacle Back on Job

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Actually he said it was sick, and in comparison with what has happened in the past 4 people dying in a consulate attack is relatively good compared to past presidents including Bush, Clinton, Daddy Bush, and Reagan. If you are going to be all overdramatic about 4 people dying it might be good to have some consistency because i am pretty sure given the OPs dramatic overreaction he probably should have poured gasoline on himself and lit himself on fire in protest long before obama came into office. If you want to take obama out of context with history that is your choice, but some of us might actually realize it was not sick and considering the past it was actually an improvement from how our presidents normally sacrifice lives.


    Yeah, I am not buying that one. We all know benghazi is the hypocrite cry of the right wing drama queens. I am not even close to that gullible and the OP most definitally did not whine during past republican presidents and their sick errors. I can buy he whined during the clinton administration.


    Believe me, i have no doubt in my mind he did not freak out. As a matyter of fact I have absolutely no doubt he considers those men heroes and that they died for an important cause. Please, if i was that gullible I probably would not be here and would be emailing my bank account info to some nigerian prince.


    BTW it happened many more times and with many more casualties under the last 5 presidents and then some. 4 is actually an improvement, and even the Bush boys completely ignored those acts of war, and the younger one was distracted from those acts by the imaginary WMDs he made up. Which is worse to you, 4 people dead from a poorly secured consulate in a country we helped to free, or thousands dead because our president is such a boob he bought a lie he made up?


    Well.....that's not fair you using a Crystal ball to read his thoughts.

    Now now you know Bilbo was Responsible for more Diplomats deaths and 5000 getting injured while 244 were killed. Even had that Ambassador back then call and request for More Security. Only to be told no.

    Course once it was all done and over with.....there was that promise that all Embassies had been hardened, security tightened, then that good Ole Democratic Guarantee. It will never happen again.

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    Re: Diplomats in Benghazi Debacle Back on Job

    Actually two men have been held accountable. The military officers who ignored the stand down orders were both replaced. Guess the political pundits who enable Americans to be killed don't matter, but we punished the two who tried to stop it. Of course being good soldiers we don't REALLY know why they were demoted.


    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The Obamatrons simply don't care. What difference, at this point, does it make? Holding anyone accountable for "mistakes in judgement" is not the federal gov't way of doing business. Don't expect any shake-ups to occur anywhere within the "trusted" Obama federal personnel, either in the state departmant, IRS or NSA. Those that tow the official line well, like Susan Rice, get promoted - Hillary expects the same thing and is already campaigning for 2016.

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    Re: Diplomats in Benghazi Debacle Back on Job

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    4 dead is horrible to you, but you probably thought a second Bush term was a great idea. Please, keep the faux outrage and get another issue. this is a non-issue. You never freaked out under other presidents who had a lot more embassy attacks and deaths than obama has. You did not say it was sick that a president ignores dire warnings that lead to the largest terror attack and over 3000 dead civilians on US soil. You never freaked out over the thousands of soldiers who gave their lives in a goose chase for WMDs that never existed. Now 4 people dead is sick. Seriously, you sound like jim Carrey protesting kickass 2.
    Friend, I don't freak out about any thing. And, I don't presume to know what some stranger has done or thought in past situations. The Benghazi debacle is still being investigated and hopefully the real truth will emerge. I'm sure that somewhere in the failure to protect Americans and in the subsequent cover-up, we will see that illicit gun-running plays a large part, and we will see that those in high places were calling the shots. Kinda like a foreign version of "fast and furious". Where was Obama during the hours long seige in Benghazi???

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    Re: Diplomats in Benghazi Debacle Back on Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Mizmo View Post
    Friend, I don't freak out about any thing. And, I don't presume to know what some stranger has done or thought in past situations.
    Sorry buddy, but I am not that gullible. Cons can try to be ambiguous about it, but we have seen your enthusiasm for the Iraq war, your excuses for Bush on ignoring warnings that might have helped stop 9/11 if he had paid attention, and the reality that 4 dead in an embassy attack is actually a pretty good record for a 2 term president considering the last half century. We know you do not like obama and hold him to a much higher standard than the failures like the Bushs', reagan, and nixon. You make it seem like this is something only he did and the rest of those guys are saints who did much better when really they failed much harder than he has in this area. If you want to do that sort of thing in the future it might be a good idea to have the conservatives stay more silent rather than being shining examples of hypocrisy in situations like this. In other words do not open your mouths and remove all doubt as to your intentions and contradictions. However, when you spend 8 years hailing Bush and praying to reagan's dead spirit it shows where you truly stand. Own it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mizmo View Post
    The Benghazi debacle is still being investigated and hopefully the real truth will emerge.
    The truth has emerged. We know what happened. What you want is not the truth, but rather evidence of the lie that was made up. The problem with having an investigation based on an assumption of wrongdoing is that sometimes the situation and evidence is not what you assumed or wanted it to be. Was what happened due to risky actions? Of course. Was it worse than any other president? No, it actually worked out better than it has for other presidents. Interestingly the mistake of leaving the consolate with little protection also lowered the available people to die which was normally much higher for past presidents who put more people in harms way. Considering budget limitations and spending cutbacks you cannot boost support for these places. Less taxes and less spending that is promoted by the republicans means that the only available option to lower the death toll is to lower the number of people to be killed. It is simple math.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mizmo View Post
    I'm sure that somewhere in the failure to protect Americans and in the subsequent cover-up, we will see that illicit gun-running plays a large part, and we will see that those in high places were calling the shots.
    Thank you for catching up. We were selling arms to wacky kadaffi a month before the whole attack started and that was pretty public knowledge, and many news organizations questioned why we would all of a sudden turn on a customer. We also know that we provided assistance for the rebels which included weapons. Maybe you forgot those things, but the strategy seemed to be avoid a full on invasion by helping to arm the rebels and giving them some military strikes in lieu of using the full force of the military to invade. None of this is new, or surprising. The US sells guns and arms all over the world. We know a certain OBL was directly assisted by the US government through money and arms because he fought against russia during their afganistan invasion. There is things like Iran/contra, the gun sales to destabilize south american countries, the supply of arms to isreal and her allies, and tons of other incidents where the US has played arms dealer to many notoriously bad people. This is not Obama's creation. Would it be nice if we stopped screwing around in the world like that? Yes it would. Would it be great if obama decided to stop doing that? i think so but we know you would complain he is endangering america if he stopped playing those games. The reality is you want him to do it, you just don't want it to be him that does it because you hate him. You would criticize him both ways, and that is why people like you are hypocrites.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mizmo View Post
    Kinda like a foreign version of "fast and furious". Where was Obama during the hours long seige in Benghazi???
    If obama had parachuted in and single handedly saved the embassy and all it's people you would complain because of some other reason. Please don't tell us that you actually care because we know you do not care about the dead people. All you care about is complaining about obama and you will stand on the backs of those corpses to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Sorry buddy, but I am not that gullible. Cons can try to be ambiguous about it, but we have seen your enthusiasm for the Iraq war, your excuses for Bush on ignoring warnings that might have helped stop 9/11 if he had paid attention, and the reality that 4 dead in an embassy attack is actually a pretty good record for a 2 term president considering the last half century. We know you do not like obama and hold him to a much higher standard than the failures like the Bushs', reagan, and nixon. You make it seem like this is something only he did and the rest of those guys are saints who did much better when really they failed much harder than he has in this area. If you want to do that sort of thing in the future it might be a good idea to have the conservatives stay more silent rather than being shining examples of hypocrisy in situations like this. In other words do not open your mouths and remove all doubt as to your intentions and contradictions. However, when you spend 8 years hailing Bush and praying to reagan's dead spirit it shows where you truly stand. Own it.



    The truth has emerged. We know what happened. What you want is not the truth, but rather evidence of the lie that was made up. The problem with having an investigation based on an assumption of wrongdoing is that sometimes the situation and evidence is not what you assumed or wanted it to be. Was what happened due to risky actions? Of course. Was it worse than any other president? No, it actually worked out better than it has for other presidents. Interestingly the mistake of leaving the consolate with little protection also lowered the available people to die which was normally much higher for past presidents who put more people in harms way. Considering budget limitations and spending cutbacks you cannot boost support for these places. Less taxes and less spending that is promoted by the republicans means that the only available option to lower the death toll is to lower the number of people to be killed. It is simple math.



    Thank you for catching up. We were selling arms to wacky kadaffi a month before the whole attack started and that was pretty public knowledge, and many news organizations questioned why we would all of a sudden turn on a customer. We also know that we provided assistance for the rebels which included weapons. Maybe you forgot those things, but the strategy seemed to be avoid a full on invasion by helping to arm the rebels and giving them some military strikes in lieu of using the full force of the military to invade. None of this is new, or surprising. The US sells guns and arms all over the world. We know a certain OBL was directly assisted by the US government through money and arms because he fought against russia during their afganistan invasion. There is things like Iran/contra, the gun sales to destabilize south american countries, the supply of arms to isreal and her allies, and tons of other incidents where the US has played arms dealer to many notoriously bad people. This is not Obama's creation. Would it be nice if we stopped screwing around in the world like that? Yes it would. Would it be great if obama decided to stop doing that? i think so but we know you would complain he is endangering america if he stopped playing those games. The reality is you want him to do it, you just don't want it to be him that does it because you hate him. You would criticize him both ways, and that is why people like you are hypocrites.



    If obama had parachuted in and single handedly saved the embassy and all it's people you would complain because of some other reason. Please don't tell us that you actually care because we know you do not care about the dead people. All you care about is complaining about obama and you will stand on the backs of those corpses to do so.
    The Benghazi debacle is shameful.

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    Re: Diplomats in Benghazi Debacle Back on Job

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Actually two men have been held accountable. The military officers who ignored the stand down orders were both replaced. Guess the political pundits who enable Americans to be killed don't matter, but we punished the two who tried to stop it. Of course being good soldiers we don't REALLY know why they were demoted.
    Of the tens of thousands of other Americans who have died in terrorist attacks or fighting terrorism why do you think only these 4 were killed by a lack of ability on the part of their bosses?

    I've yet to hear a good reason for the President of SecState to willingly leave four Americans to die, but despite no reason to do so many people believed that's what happened.

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