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Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

Removable Mind said:
Witch Doctor? Uhmmmm...and how would you connect Obama with "witch doctor"? I'm not a fan of Obama, but that's sounding a weee bit.....
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he's sporting an avatar that some tea party participants created for a poster for their events several years ago...

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Like I said, Texmex should be proud of himself rather than act coy and run from who he is.
 
poweRob said:
he's sporting an avatar that some tea party participants created for a poster for their events several years ago...

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Like I said, Texmex should be proud of himself rather than act coy and run from who he is.
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Man oh man....and a Texan no less. It's enough Perry keeps Texas in a hysterical state of pandemonium....

Well, as a native Texan, I can say that isn't the avatar all Texans would proudly display. As I stated before, I'm not a big fan of Obama...but...
 
Removable Mind said:
Man oh man....and a Texan no less. It's enough Perry keeps Texas in a hysterical state of pandemonium....

Well, as a native Texan, I can say that isn't the avatar all Texans would proudly display. As I stated before, I'm not a big fan of Obama...but...
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Same here. I'm a liberal liberal... I've got all sorts of beef with the man on many fronts but these guys that do this kind of stuff, come on...
 
jmotivator said:
Go ahead.
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Badmutha said:
The "other crap" represents the data presented on a real Birth Certificate.......when one exists.

........Obama has released a COLB......not his original BC......they are not the same. There are gumball machines in Hawaii that have more requirements than getting a COLB.
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:coffeepap
 
ItAin'tFree said:
He and his author started it all. Way back when. Then years later Obama himself said he was ineligible to be President. So when you decide to slam "birthers", by all means feel free, just don't exclude any, especially the guy that started it all. Obama.
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You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. You certainly have no compunctions about making **** up.

Obama didn't start it and he didn't say he was ineligible.
 
ItAin'tFree said:
Clear where he was born? LOL. Not according to Obama in 1991 and with what he said in the senate. How much stock does he own in Reynolds Wrap?
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February 06, 1990

The new president of the Review is Barack Obama, a 28-year-old graduate of Columbia University who spent four years heading a community development program for poor blacks on Chicago's South Side before enrolling in law school. His late father, Barack Obama, was a finance minister in Kenya and his mother, Ann Dunham, is an American anthropologist now doing fieldwork in Indonesia. Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii.

First Black Elected to Head Harvard's Law Review - NYTimes.com
 
Texmex said:
My avatar show the kind of health care we will be stuck with if Obama's health care is ever actually put into practice.
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Obama's healthcare plan is very much like the one Romney passed in Massachusetts. Let's see your evidence that healthcare in Massachusetts is on par with witchdoctor healthcare.......
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Obama's healthcare plan is very much like the one Romney passed in Massachusetts. Let's see your evidence that healthcare in Massachusetts is on par with witchdoctor healthcare.......
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I don't support Romney or his health care plan.
 
Anthony60 said:
I can'tor? That's not even a word. Refute what? I don't know what you are trying to say!
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It was a play on words. Really you didn't get that? Eric Cantor?
 
Texmex said:
I don't support Romney or his health care plan.
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Seriously, who cares what you support???

The question wasn't, do you care? The question was .... Let's see your evidence that healthcare in Massachusetts is on par with witchdoctor healthcare.......

The non-sequitur you offered in lieu of an actual answer didn't really help you there, now did it?
 
disneydude said:
...and it turns out, he was born in Canada

Tea party favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

"U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz has released his birth certificate amid concerns that being born in Canada could derail a possible presidential run by the tea party firebrand."


It will be interesting to see if the birther crowd, many of whom align with the tea party crowd expose themselves as hypocrites if they continue to back him.

Personally I think it is silly. He's a US citizen.
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It doesn't matter where you're born, just as long as one of your biological parents is a natural citizen of the United States their offspring will be a natural citizen of the United States.

Considering Obamas mother was a US citizen that makes Obama a US citizen however, I don't believe for a second he was born in Hawaii, nor do I believe his back story considering NO ONE CAN VOUCH FOR HIM... No friends can remember him - hell, NO PROFESSORS can remember him....... Certainly if these were all lies there would be numerous people stepping forward to vouch that Obama was at X at X time......

Of course it doesn't help considering Obama REFUSES to release any documents relating to his past.

His birth certificate is questionable because it's not a long-form certificate you would get from the hospital - its a certificate you would get when you applied for one..... The same certificate a Hawiian would have received had they been born in 1895 and wanted one from the new state of Hawaii in 1961...
 
Mr.Nick said:
It doesn't matter where you're born, just as long as one of your biological parents is a natural citizen of the United States their offspring will be a natural citizen of the United States.

Considering Obamas mother was a US citizen that makes Obama a US citizen however, I don't believe for a second he was born in Hawaii, nor do I believe his back story considering NO ONE CAN VOUCH FOR HIM... No friends can remember him - hell, NO PROFESSORS can remember him....... Certainly if these were all lies there would be numerous people stepping forward to vouch that Obama was at X at X time......

Of course it doesn't help considering Obama REFUSES to release any documents relating to his past.

His birth certificate is questionable because it's not a long-form certificate you would get from the hospital - its a certificate you would get when you applied for one..... The same certificate a Hawiian would have received had they been born in 1895 and wanted one from the new state of Hawaii in 1961...
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When do the lies end?? No friends remember him? Really?

Obama's Neighborhood - Barack Obama Resources, Hawaii History, Punahou, Pictures, Images

NO PROFESSORS can remember him? Really?

Obama's missing 'thesis' - First Read

Seriously ... what do you think you gain by lying?
 
Mr.Nick said:
His birth certificate is questionable because it's not a long-form certificate you would get from the hospital - its a certificate you would get when you applied for one..... The same certificate a Hawiian would have received had they been born in 1895 and wanted one from the new state of Hawaii in 1961...
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According to Hawaii, the short form certificate is an "official" record of birth and it serves as prima facie evidence in a court of law.

It was verified by the official people needed to qualify it. That being the state registrar and the Director of Health. Obama's birth record was also confirmed by the [Republican] governor. Furthermore, the certificate ID is also confirmed by the ID's on the certificates of the Nordyke twins', who were born the next day in the same hospital.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
When do the lies end?? No friends remember him? Really?

Obama's Neighborhood - Barack Obama Resources, Hawaii History, Punahou, Pictures, Images

NO PROFESSORS can remember him? Really?

Obama's missing 'thesis' - First Read

Seriously ... what do you think you gain by lying?
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That's funny..

I can find people who lie about seeing aliens too, not only that but I can manufacture a document as well...

You do realize that no one remembers Obama?

If Obama was so prestigious and that he actually even went to college in the United States and attended classes - surly someone would have known him...

Was he Casper the ****ing ghost?

Look, If I knew someone that was the POTUS and was being doubted I would certainly say - "yeah check it out I knew the guy" - no one has EVER been able to substantiate Obamas claims..... NO one of his class, his professors - no one claims to have known or seen him EVER.....

It's easy to forge documents...

It only took a few fake documents for guys like Madoff and the other ponzi's to steal billions - how difficult you think it is to do the same in the academic area? all it takes is a few people with access to certain areas and you're the next Stephen Hawking on paper.
 
Mr.Nick said:
That's funny..

I can find people who lie about seeing aliens too, not only that but I can manufacture a document as well...

You do realize that no one remembers Obama?
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Who knows why you think heaping lies on top of lies helps you??

There are professors who remember him and there are friends who remember him.

You claiming otherwise is nothing but shallow and desperate.

I suppose you think the photos of Obama with friends from back then were photoshopped by aliens, huh? :screwy

Mr.Nick said:
That's funny..
If Obama was so prestigious and that he actually even went to college in the United States and attended classes - surly someone would have known him...

Was he Casper the ****ing ghost?

Look, If I knew someone that was the POTUS and was being doubted I would certainly say - "yeah check it out I knew the guy" - no one has EVER been able to substantiate Obamas claims..... NO one of his class, his professors - no one claims to have known or seen him EVER.....

It's easy to forge documents...
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I suppose you think it's easy to forge videos too, huh? Like this one of Obama in college. You know, the place you deny he attended.



Mr.Nick said:
no one has EVER been able to substantiate Obamas claims..... NO one of his class, his professors - no one claims to have known or seen him EVER.....
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Who knows why, but you're flat out lying. I just gave you links to people who remember him from back then. You can accuse them of lying until you turn blue, you will still have zero evidence to confirm your sad accusations and you will still be lying because there are people who say they saw him.

Oh, well. C'est la vie. :shrug:
 
rocket88 said:
Now hold on sparky, his Father wasn't an American citizen. He was born abroad to one citizen and one non-citizen.

It is at least, an interesting can of worms. I'm not saying it should disqualify him, but is being born abroad to one citizen enough?
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No, to be a natural born citizen he must be born in The USA or one of its terrotories or zone of control like an embassy or the former American held Panama Canal Zone.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Who knows why you think heaping lies on top of lies helps you??

There are professors who remember him and there are friends who remember him.

You claiming otherwise is nothing but shallow and desperate.

I suppose you think the photos of Obama with friends from back then were photoshopped by aliens, huh? :screwy


I suppose you think it's easy to forge videos too, huh? Like this one of Obama in college. You know, the place you deny he attended.




Who knows why, but you're flat out lying. I just gave you links to people who remember him from back then. You can accuse them of lying until you turn blue, you will still have zero evidence to confirm your sad accusations and you will still be lying because there are people who say they saw him.

Oh, well. C'est la vie. :shrug:
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Yeah in 1991 Obama was 30 - he was a community organizer...

Got anything pre-1988???


oh yeah you don't
 
Mr.Nick said:
Yeah in 1991 Obama was 30 - he was a community organizer...

Got anything pre-1988???


oh yeah you don't
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Must be because Obama didn't move to the U.S. from Kenya until 1991??

:lamo :lamo :lamo

Still, there are folks (professors and students) who say they remember him. For you to say, "NO one of his class, his professors - no one claims to have known or seen him EVER," is nothing but a bald-faced lie.
 
How can Cruz be a natural born citizen of the US when he wasn't even born in the US? If he weren't a Republican, the bigots would have called him an anchor baby.
 
Shadow Serious said:
No, to be a natural born citizen he must be born in The USA or one of its terrotories or zone of control like an embassy or the former American held Panama Canal Zone.
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God forbid if an expecting woman ever went on vacation or business abroad - their children could never be US citizens.... lol..

Don't you love these guys? I thought citizenship requirements were basic civics lessons when I was in the 8th grade, then taught again in the 12th grade.

I suppose we stopped teaching citizenship lessons when it comes to civics for "pc" reasons... "We're all a citizen of the world you know."
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Must be because Obama didn't move to the U.S. from Kenya until 1991??

:lamo :lamo :lamo

Still, there are folks (professors and students) who say they remember him. For you to say, "NO one of his class, his professors - no one claims to have known or seen him EVER," is nothing but a bald-faced lie.
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I'd bet more people would vouch for me from k-17 x 10 than Obama........

If I was a politician I bet there would be about 700-1000 people that could say "I know that guy" - funny how Obama has none of that....

Of course if I was a politician I would release my student records... I suppose that would be extremely helpful for those who would actually would want to know me rather than who I was when I was a plump toddler....

Because the only people who remember "barry" were memories of 6-year-olds and his name was "Barry" back then.....
 
Mr.Nick said:
God forbid if an expecting woman ever went on vacation or business abroad - their children could never be US citizens.... lol..
They are likely US citizens just not natural born and the only thing that affects is eligibility for the Office of President.
Don't you love these guys? I thought citizenship requirements were basic civics lessons when I was in the 8th grade, then taught again in the 12th grade.
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I'm middle age so you must be older.

I suppose we stopped teaching citizenship lessons when it comes to civics for "pc" reasons... "We're all a citizen of the world you know."
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There is no such thing a Citizen of the World.
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