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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Do you know the difference between inconsistency and consistency? Obama's issues were that he had been reported born in the US and Kenya. Then, his mother may have been to young to bestow birth rights to him. When he released his certificate, every one but the few that really didn't want to hear it believed it.

    Cruz has never denied being born in Canada and there has never been a question that his mother could bestow birth rights on him. The hypocrisy stays in the OP.
    Then there is the question of his odd social security number and the foreign aid he received as a student.
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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    What's the "definite element" which unites the Tea Party? I'm not trying to trick you or something. I'm just curious what you believe it to be.
    There are several elements which demonstrate the Tea Party influence. But, generally speaking, it's a more extreme right-wing Republican base, many times trying to pass themselves off as libertarian despite their many times oppressive social beliefs. But I think describing the Tea Party can best be summed up in two pictures.

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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Well, no ... the hypocrisy remains firmly among the birthers who insisted that Obama's mother could not bestow those same birth rights unto Obama because he was born in another country -- same as Cruz.

    And who knows what you're talking about his mother being too young to confer birth rights to him ...


    8 USC § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

    (g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person

    She needed to be only 16 years of age at his birth and she was almost 19.
    That was the information that was debated. And there was some information that was contrary to that. When it came to light that everything was kosher, nearly everyone let it go. But there was nothing wrong with having the debate then, and there is still nothing wrong with having the debate now. The OP isn't interested in a debate though, he's just interested in name calling and gotcha posts.

    And I still maintain that every candidate on the ballot should submit credentials to each state detailing their eligibility to be the POTUS. I have to go through a background check every time I get a job, why not go through a background check to POTUS? Seems logical to me.
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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....here come the hypocrites. Nice attempt at justification for your hypocrisy....but major FAIL!
    Oh knows...he said I failed...how will my life ever be the same?

    C'mon man. All you are really interested is name calling and gotcha politics. If you can't acknowledge there are differences, then you clearly are the hypocrite in this thread.
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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Then there is the question of his odd social security number and the foreign aid he received as a student.

    Do you have a link to those claims? A cursory search of Google came up short.
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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Actually....no. It made the birther crowd look like complete imbeciles and derailed the biggest birther imbeciles Presidential Hopes - Donald Trump
    LOL.

    No, Obama is the one with egg on his face. As always.

    The President of the United States of all Americans could have released his birth certificate at any time. Instead, he does what he always does, plays politics, divides Americans, creates wedge issues on so on. And lets not forget that it was Obama himself who was the founding "birther". He started it all. Now compare that to Cruz. The issue pops up. The issue is taken care of. On to something else.

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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    he is a US citizen, but the hypocracy would be so thick if they nominated him...
    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    ...and it turns out, he was born in Canada

    Tea party favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    "U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz has released his birth certificate amid concerns that being born in Canada could derail a possible presidential run by the tea party firebrand."


    It will be interesting to see if the birther crowd, many of whom align with the tea party crowd expose themselves as hypocrites if they continue to back him.

    Personally I think it is silly. He's a US citizen.
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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet Elvis View Post
    Cheap ploy is cheap.

    I hate 0bama as much as anyone, but Jesus...lay off the birth certificate thing. Five years in, and no one cares anymore. Focus on the Democrats' horrible record instead.

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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    ...and it turns out, he was born in Canada

    Tea party favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    "U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz has released his birth certificate amid concerns that being born in Canada could derail a possible presidential run by the tea party firebrand."


    It will be interesting to see if the birther crowd, many of whom align with the tea party crowd expose themselves as hypocrites if they continue to back him.

    Personally I think it is silly. He's a US citizen.
    I agree, he is a US citizen and a Canadian citizen, which makes not difference if he runs for President. I wonder if the birthers will question the autheticity of his certificate like they are still questioning the President's. Unlikely, I say.
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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    One does have to wonder how a guy as 'smart' as Ted Cruz, Harvard grad, Supreme Court attorney, could be so clueless about his personal citizenship status

    Cruz renounces any claim to Canadian citizenship - First Read

    "Given the raft of stories today about my birth certificate, it must be a slow news day. The facts of my birth are straightforward: I was born in 1970 in Calgary, Canada. Because my mother was a U.S. citizen, born in Delaware, I was a U.S. citizen by birth. When I was a kid, my Mom told me that I could choose to claim Canadian citizenship if I wanted. I got my U.S. passport in high school.

    "Because I was a U.S. citizen at birth, because I left Calgary when I was 4 and have lived my entire life since then in the U.S., and because I have never taken affirmative steps to claim Canadian citizenship, I assumed that was the end of the matter.

    "Now the Dallas Morning News says that I may technically have dual citizenship. Assuming that is true, then sure, I will renounce any Canadian citizenship. Nothing against Canada, but I'm an American by birth and as a U.S. Senator, I believe I should be only an American."
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