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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What you are saying is clearly untrue. Bain Capital created jobs, much more so than his Democratic opponent. Tally of Job Creation at Bain Under Romney Proves Vexing - WSJ.com

    If you want a high paid union job just move to Detroit.
    Do you believe Detroit pensioneers should lose their pensions? Should private pensioneers have lost theirs because of Bain-types? Did Uncle Sam bail out the privates on your dime? Is only one party responsible for the public pension mess in this Country?

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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    yeah, but he doesn't know that he has reached his pinnacle ... he thinks he is just getting started ... but, hey, who would've predicted that Dubya would be prez one day ...
    I wonder if this is true. Anyone know?

    Beneath the photo from the REAGAN DIARIES is an actual quote that Reagan wrote about George "W" in his diaries, recently edited by author Doug Brinkley and published by Harper Collins.

    "A moment I've been dreading. George brought his n'er-do-well son around this morning and asked me to find the kid a job. Not the political one who lives in Florida ; the one who hangs around here all the time looking shiftless. This so-called kid is already almost 40 and has never had a real job. Maybe I'll call Kinsley over at The New Republic and see if they'll hire him as a contributing editor or something. That looks like easy work."


    False.

    Why are you spreading lies?

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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    False.

    Why are you spreading lies?
    Funny how the left will just swallow up complete fabrications and take them as facts without lifting a finger when it reinforces their false arguments.
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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It was clear where he was born. You literally had proof in a court of law of his place of birth, publicly certified as genuine by the appropriate state officials. And it still didn't satisfy the tinfoil crowd.
    Listen, a lot of people frankly did not know if he was born in this country or not (which does not disquailify him). Most people were not going to access court records to find out, hence the questions.

    But enough about that lightweight, this is about Ted Cruz. Obviously, no question that he is eligible to serve as President. And, unlike our president, he is quite accomplished in his career.
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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    If I understand correctly, Cruz holds dual citizenship but may have to renounce his Canadian citizenship if he plans to run for higher office. What's the big deal? He is an American citizen.
    So is Arnold Schwarzenegger, who also is a naturalized citizen with eyes on the presidency but is constitutionally ineligible because he was not born in the USA and his parents were not citizens. If Cruz was born in Canada and his parents were not natural-born American citizens, the same constitutional ineligibility would apply to him.

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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    And we have older folks here who are, by most features, completely stupid (But I'm not naming names). Age is no measure of wisdom or knowledge.
    I beg to differ, but yes age IS a measure of wisdom (I did not mention knowledge). We have kids coming out of college that can't balance a checkbook to save their lives. Kids who put hard drinking/partying as a priority over responsibility. Me...personally...I want a president who's had enough life experiences to gain some wisdom. I don't want a president who'll be serving Four Loko at the White House because it "gives a killer buzz."

    Obama was a state senator. That is an official role.
    Gimme a freakin' break. He was a senator? For how long...a week? He immediately began campaigning for the White House as soon as he was elected senator. One could argue that a part of why Illinois is such a disaster is because their "senator" wasn't even there during his "tenure."

    Quote Originally Posted by avery45 View Post
    It does matter. It's a constitutional issue. Like it, love it, hate it.
    I told you it was my opinion. Do I need to explain what "constitutional issue" and "opinion" do not have in common?
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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet Elvis View Post
    I beg to differ, but yes age IS a measure of wisdom (I did not mention knowledge). We have kids coming out of college that can't balance a checkbook to save their lives.
    I see plenty of elderly folk with the same problem. What's your point?

    Kids who put hard drinking/partying as a priority over responsibility. Me...personally...I want a president who's had enough life experiences to gain some wisdom. I don't want a president who'll be serving Four Loko at the White House because it "gives a killer buzz."
    What makes you think that such a person could even get to the point where they're seriously considered for a primary?

    Gimme a freakin' break. He was a senator? For how long...a week?
    1997–2004.

    Google. Use it.

    He immediately began campaigning for the White House as soon as he was elected senator. One could argue that a part of why Illinois is such a disaster is because their "senator" wasn't even there during his "tenure."
    Obama was campaigning for Whitehouse back in 1997? That's news to me. Can you support this?
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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    So is Arnold Schwarzenegger, who also is a naturalized citizen with eyes on the presidency but is constitutionally ineligible because he was not born in the USA and his parents were not citizens. If Cruz was born in Canada and his parents were not natural-born American citizens, the same constitutional ineligibility would apply to him.
    Cruz’s mother was a U.S. citizen when he was born, and current U.S. law extends citizenship to anyone born to a U.S. citizen, regardless of where the birth takes place. The question is whether citizenship is the same thing as being a “natural-born citizen.”

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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Are there any qualification for office that are relevant?
    I'd say citizen of the country. I don't see anything more than that. Age has no bearing about wisdom or knowledge as we've seen from very dumb, very ignorant, very unwise old folks here.

    And time spent in country has no bearing upon their capacity to make decisions. Citizen should be the only requirement.
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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What you are saying is clearly untrue. Bain Capital created jobs, much more so than his Democratic opponent. Tally of Job Creation at Bain Under Romney Proves Vexing - WSJ.com

    If you want a high paid union job just move to Detroit.
    First of all, thank you for actually attempting to support your position... and using a credible source, the Wall Street Journal at that. You absolutely get an "A" for effort, but a "D" for result as the article supports the notion that Bain's job creation was pretty negligible as the companies that Romney bragged about received only small investments from Bain.

    One company that I know well, Sports Authority, was hardly a creation of Bain. Rather, it was a roll-up of established sporting goods stores anchored by Gart Brothers, which was founded in Denver in 1928. The fundamental principle of a roll-up strategy is to improve the bottom line by 1) better buying power and 2) elimination of redundant administration. In a roll-up, all of the executives and most of the administrative management positions (buyers, accountants, marketers) of the other sporting goods companies are fired.... job loss for the middle and upper middle class. Roll-ups and outsourcing, resulting in loss of high paying jobs, was a Bain specialty. As I have pointed out before, when we sold our software company in 2008, Bain was a prospective buyer. We had to pitch to them how much we thought could be outsourced (how much we could cut high paying jobs out of the equation). They didn't think there as enough outsourcing opportunity for their taste.

    Sorry, but even if Obama created ZERO high-paying jobs... zero is bigger than a negative number...

    But, again, a sincere thanks for your attempt to support your position.. far too many here want to quip and think you should accept them as experts.

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