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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    I don't understand the confusion. The President must be a natural born American. Cruz is an American born in Canada. How can that be a natural born American?

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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    And you miss my point entirely. It isn't whether the guy meets the citizenship requirement, he clearly does. For me it is about how he handled the controversy, and every controversy that followed it.
    I'm not a conservative, but I don't think this guy is someone conservatives want to hitch their wagon to ... even Paul thinks this guy is too far to the right ... at the end of the day, this country seems to be more center cut, with a slight right tendency ... Cruz is too far right .. and when he questioned Hagel's patriotism? That was truly disgusting. Under other circumstances Hagel would've decked his sorry ass ...

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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    And you miss my point entirely. It isn't whether the guy meets the citizenship requirement, he clearly does. For me it is about how he handled the controversy, and every controversy that followed it.
    There was only a "controversy" in the minds of the fringe right-wing birthers....the rest of the country saw the BS for what it was. It was never a serious or legitimate issue for most people.
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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    I'm not a conservative, but I don't think this guy is someone conservatives want to hitch their wagon to ... even Paul thinks this guy is too far to the right ... at the end of the day, this country seems to be more center cut, with a slight right tendency ... Cruz is too far right .. and when he questioned Hagel's patriotism? That was truly disgusting. Under other circumstances Hagel would've decked his sorry ass ...
    That isn't a response to what I said, nor a valid argument even on the topic.

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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The birther crap was in large part based on racism. Sorry...that is just the cold hard fact. Not that all Republicans are racist....because as a matter of fact, I don't believe that most of them are. However, there is a large sergment, namely the hard-right birther wackos who ARE racist. Their BS was grounded on the idea that it couldn't be possible that a person who didn't look like them could possibly be as American as they are...."he must be foreign"....this is the wing of the GOP that is bringing the rest of the part down.
    The "birther crap" was based on legitimate questions about Obama's place of birth, I thought there was really no reason to pursue it, since there is no way it would go anywhere. If you have any "cold hard fact" that it was racist, please show us, because that is a big claim you are making.

    Do you also have some evidence that a large amount of people think that only Caucasians are born in the United States? I assume that is what you mean when you refer to as a "person who didn't look like them".

    And this is now a "wing" of the Republican Party? Of course, there are no racists that are Democrats, are there?
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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    I don't understand the confusion. The President must be a natural born American. Cruz is an American born in Canada. How can that be a natural born American?
    If a family is on vacation to another country and has a child, do you believe that their child should not be a natural born American?
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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    He did release it. Twice. First time was way back in 2008.

    And how on Earth was Obama the "founding Birther?"
    He and his author started it all. Way back when. Then years later Obama himself said he was ineligible to be President. So when you decide to slam "birthers", by all means feel free, just don't exclude any, especially the guy that started it all. Obama.

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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    There was only a "controversy" in the minds of the fringe right-wing birthers....the rest of the country saw the BS for what it was. It was never a serious or legitimate issue for most people.

    CNN poll in 2010 showed 42% of Americans were "positive" Obama was born in the US. Leaving 58% with doubts. As the president of all Americans it would seem the presidential thing to do is to go out of your way to ease the doubts of the 58%.... unfortunately the president was a douchebag instead.

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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    That isn't a response to what I said, nor a valid argument even on the topic.
    no, it's not the type of response you wanted, but it was most certainly a response to what you said, and forgive me if I don't rely on you to tell me what is or is not a "vaid argument" on the topic ...

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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    My favorite Facebook quote on this story.............

    "Four out of five dentists who confirm the authenticity of birth certificates as a side job tell me this thing is as fake as a two-dollar loonie. At least I think so. I was sucking on laughing gas at the time."

    LMAO.
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