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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    I really dont care if he is eligible or not, I just find the hypocrisy of the right, well just rich. And yes, Obama supplied his birth certificate and there were copies of the paper announcing his birth which convinced me.
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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I really dont care if he is eligible or not, I just find the hypocrisy of the right, well just rich. And yes, Obama supplied his birth certificate and there were copies of the paper announcing his birth which convinced me.
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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I hope he runs.
    It's inevitable that the GOP will nominate an unelectable freak like Cruz next election. They are on the glide path to electoral oblivion.

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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    This in no way is the same as John McCain. John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone, a US possession at the time and while his father was stationed there on active duty.

    I'd have to know what kind of visa Cruz's parents had when living in Canada to even consider him eligible. Aside from that, I would have to say, no, he is not eligible for President.
    From the article it would appear his father or mother had the equivalent of a work visa as he was working in the alberta energy sector at the time. If it was for a Canadian company it may have been part of a broader sponsorship to get permanent residence status (ie green card) or if it was for a US company, just a temp work visa.


    Just read that he spent the first 4 years of his life in Canada, so I would guess they had PR status
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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Do you know the difference between inconsistency and consistency? Obama's issues were that he had been reported born in the US and Kenya. Then, his mother may have been to young to bestow birth rights to him. When he released his certificate, every one but the few that really didn't want to hear it believed it.

    Cruz has never denied being born in Canada and there has never been a question that his mother could bestow birth rights on him. The hypocrisy stays in the OP.
    I read this earlier today and just shook my head. It's really a shame how suddenly the issue isn't whether Sen. Ted Cruz is really a natural born citizen using the exact same guidelines and/or arguments that were levied against Pres. Obama but instead it's the way Sen. Cruz skirted the potential conspiracy over his non-U.S. territory birth.

    I just have two questions for those who are now defending Sen. Cruz:

    1) Does anyone know his birthday? Relevance: INA law governing the circumstances of his birth depend on when he was born.

    2) Does "born to 2-U.S. citizen parents" still apply for natural-born status?
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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I read this earlier today and just shook my head. It's really a shame how suddenly the issue isn't whether Sen. Ted Cruz is really a natural born citizen using the exact same guidelines and/or arguments that were levied against Pres. Obama but instead it's the way Sen. Cruz skirted the potential conspiracy over his non-U.S. territory birth.

    I just have two questions for those who are now defending Sen. Cruz:

    1) Does anyone know his birthday? Relevance: INA law governing the circumstances of his birth depend on when he was born.

    2) Does "born to 2-U.S. citizen parents" still apply for natural-born status?
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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Thanks. Means Sen. Cruz would technically fall under the 1965 immigration law. But since the 1965 law only changed immigration quotas for Asians immigrating into the U.S., I'd say Cruz probably would still fall under most of the 1952 immigration guidelines. And if that is the case, I seriously doubt he'd qualify for President since immigration law even back then conferred U.S. citizenship to children born abroad based on the father's citizenship status, not the mother except in limited situations.
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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Maybe the far right has another issue with Cruz, just like Obama is half black, Cruz is half latino. I do not know whether that is the problem for the extreme right but it is possible.
    The far right has the same problem that the far left does: they've both lost sight of what matters to focus on trivial things that are irrelevant.
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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Get rid of the age and time requirements. They serve no purpose in today's world.

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    Absolutely NOT. In regards to age, look at a cross-section of our citizens. They're stupid. They're government-schooled. A great deal of these cretins spend more time paying attention to reality TV than paying attention to their elected officials. These are people who are itching to sue anyone for anything for a payday. There's no wisdom in the kids coming out of school today. If you ask me, the minimum age for the president (35) is just fine. I don't want some punk getting elected. I want someone who's done something in his life (unlike 0bama). Perhaps someone who's spent some time in some sort of official role, so he knows how things work (unlike 0bama).

    Quote Originally Posted by avery45 View Post
    The problem for me is: The constitution says the president must be born in the U.S. (paraphrased). What mechanisms are in place to ensure this is being followed? Like providing a birth certificate. I don't know.
    Honestly, I don't care if the President is a natural-born citizen. What I do care about is that a) he's a citizen...period, and b) he's been a citizen of this country for a length of time (maybe 25 years).

    In the grand scheme of things, does it really matter if a President came over on a boat when he was three? Seriously? He could grow up to be the most brilliant scholar in the world, but you're going to deny us a leader like that because he spent the first three years (which frankly...he probably doesn't even remember) out of the country? 0bama says he's a natural citizen from birth, and look at him. He's a clueless imbecile jerk. I'd rather have the scholar myself.
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    Re: Tea Party Favorite Cruz releases birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    There are several elements which demonstrate the Tea Party influence. But, generally speaking, it's a more extreme right-wing Republican base, many times trying to pass themselves off as libertarian despite their many times oppressive social beliefs. But I think describing the Tea Party can best be summed up in two pictures.

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