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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    Quote Originally Posted by polisciguy View Post
    Any excuse to not actually stand up in front of people and sell what you're talking about.
    Well, I see it as their point in that they still will be selling. Just with ABC, CBS, and FOX. Looks like they will have to do it the Ole fashion way, and earn it. Which means stumping around the country.

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    Re: RNC votes to block CNN, NBC from hosting debates

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I believe in theory they can't stop someone, anyone from running- but the actual effect of not allowing them on the RNC debate stage is to stop any realistic shot at the GOP nomination. Perhaps a solid vetting process BEFORE any public debate would push a few scandal mavens to the rear and allow the Buddy's of the party more of a chance.

    But to be very realistic I doubt either party wants any meaningful campaign finance reform. The media damn sure doesn't.

    I agree with all your points here....

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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    *shrug* I personally think this was an excuse to do this
    The RNC doesn't need an excuse or even a justifiable reason... It's their debates.

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    Re: RNC votes to block CNN, NBC from hosting debates

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    For the record, I'm not blaming the MSM or anyone other than the party. They know that the press has been liberal for decades, but that didn't stop other Republican's from winning the general election. And if the party hadn't moved so far to the right they may not have looked like a bunch of totally out of touch regressive TV evangelists asking you to send your money to Jesus but telling you to make the check out in their name. I was truly embarrassed. Oh for the chance to have another Barry Goldwater.

    Other than the clarification on my position above, I agree with everything you said. And well said by the way.
    Is Barry Goldwater somehow not on the far right because he was more of a classical liberal, or am I the only one finding it strange that Goldwater wouldn't be perceived as extreme?
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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I guess to me, I see more danger in large coalitions supporting one candidate versus another large coalition supporting the second candidate threatening to break free or stay home if the other were to be nominated. I don't think anything will come close to say, 1912, 1964, and 1968 for either party, but I saw more potential in '08.
    But isn't this how it's always been in America? Every candidate in a primary has their own supporting groups and coalitions. Part of winning the primary has been getting more coalitions and groups. And the GOP has always had the problem of alienating the social conservatives. There aren't enough Romney Business types to win and there aren't enough social conservatives to win. So GOP candidates have to play to both groups or they risk having one saying home. The Democrats have this groups in environmentalists, unions, teachers groups, so on and so forth. I don't see how this is any different than it's been before.

    Personally I saw, the 11-12 GOP Primary was a bunch of crabs in a bucket pulling down whoever got close to escaping. In the end, they all got fried. 07-08 on the Democrat primary was far less of this and more building themselves up rather than primarily tearing each other down. 11-12 GOP Primary was very little about why each candidate was better than the rest and more why the leader at the time was a bad choice.
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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    The RNC doesn't need an excuse or even a justifiable reason... It's their debates.
    But that does not mean we are barred from looking at why they may be doing it.

    Considering the debacle that was the 11-12 primary, it makes sense to limit candidate exposure at the primary level. If you can't stop your candidates from ripping each other's throats out on TV, you can at least limit the number of times the public sees that.
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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Its all moot anyway. The Republican chances of winning in 2016 are between slim and none.
    Whoa there. That's a big statement.

    The exception to the that: Christie runs. Unfortunately, as of now, he would not make it through the primary process (though that could change.)
    Christie might, but it depends on whether or not the state leaders realize they're handicapping themselves by only listening to crazies in their party at the primary levels.

    The Cons need to actually put up their presidential version of Christine McDonnell so they can get shallacked a the polls and perhaps then, they will listen to the general electorate and run candidates that have vision and can win.
    Perhaps, but do you think that the GOP has the capacity for self reflection for this that the Democrats had?
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    Re: RNC votes to block CNN, NBC from hosting debates

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    A preemptive strike against a network for planning to run a documentary two years before the election takes place projects a certain level of insecurity and weakness. A poor PR decision in my opinion.
    And does anyone believe the GOP wouldn't do this if they had a perceived, strong front runner two years out? RNC Is getting its panties in a wad because the Democrats beat them to the punch.

    If the situation was reversed, the GOP would be putting on documentaries about how their candidate is the best thing since sliced bread two years out and constantly running them to get massive exposure.
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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    But that does not mean we are barred from looking at why they may be doing it.

    Considering the debacle that was the 11-12 primary, it makes sense to limit candidate exposure at the primary level. If you can't stop your candidates from ripping each other's throats out on TV, you can at least limit the number of times the public sees that.
    What the hell is the point of having a debate if it isn't going to be televised?

    Of course you will have access to the debates.....

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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Looks Like Priebus kept his word. The GOP has voted to block CNN and NBC out from any Republican Primaries. Only way they get in. Is to not run the Clinton Specials.



    The Republican National Committee has approved a resolution to block two television networks from hosting GOP presidential primary debates.

    Friday's vote affirms RNC chairman Reince Priebus's (ryns PREE'-bus) threat against CNN and NBC unless the networks drop plans to air programs about possible Democratic presidential contender Hillary Rodham Clinton. The vote at the committee's summer meeting in Boston was unanimous.....snip~

    RNC votes to block CNN, NBC from hosting debates
    It looks like the Republicans need to get Michael Steele back, remember the banner year they had in 2010?


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