The real problem I see with the GOP nomination process is they let in damn near every yahoo who had so many flaws there was ZERO chance of a diamond forming. The addition of the TPs to the process didn't bring the sterilizing 'flame of truth' but rather the wrecking ball of hyperpartisanship. ALL candidates had to stake out positions so far the the right that as the Willard adviser so correctly stated, after securing the nomination we will have an Etch-a-Sketch moment.
The problem with the larger than life nominees was they all had larger than life millstones. Meteoric rise and just as fast a fall- don't blame MSM for that, these guys had HUGE skeletons in their individual closets, you can't nor should be able to hide this from the citizens.
As things now stand any candidate that appeals to moderates would be the bane of the TP movement. Any true TP candidate would need a complete failure of a dem candidate to have even a ghost of a chance- and Hillary ain't it.
Prebuis can dance this around all he wants- it isn't too many debates, or too much time for the MSM to look into the candidates pasts... no Sir, it is the platform the candidates must espouse in order to secure the nomination turning many moderates away from the GOP.
It would be folly to try and shield the eventual candidate from hard scrutiny until the general, the MSM is going to get it's prying in and if some skeletons like all the sexual harassment charges against Herman Ciane came out then the GOP would have lost by a huge landslide.
If the RNC wants to manipulate the process better they screen candidates HARD before let them anywhere near the stage. Return the party platform to a more moderate course. Drop social issues like abortion and where a woman should stay... yes I know Tigger will never vote for a GOP candidate but I believe he never has anyways...
Other than the clarification on my position above, I agree with everything you said. And well said by the way.
Well, they can't stop anyone from running for president; however, they CAN control who is in the debates. Sadly, the one guy I wish had been in there - Buddy Roemer - got frozen out. It's not that I thought he had a chance of winning, but I wanted his message of campaign finance reform to be part of the picture.
But with such a weak field, guess they didn't have any good way of kicking out some of the participants; so if they had a nationally known name, they got in to the debates.
But to be very realistic I doubt either party wants any meaningful campaign finance reform. The media damn sure doesn't.
The Republican's can't win by dividing their base.
Christie needs to be convinced to run. He is a "rock star" candidate the kind of which can win elecctions. The only thing is he belongs on the Democratic ticket not the Republican one. Putting him up as a "republican" is the same kind of lie as calling Ron Paul a "republican" they are both extremes in the opposite way from the core Republican principles. The Republicans will lose so long as they elect a RINO and think the right side base will be all happy and excited about a VP nominee. (ala 2008 / 2012). The Republican's won't elect the likes of Ron Paul so I'm not worried about it - his son is far more mainstream Republican then Ron ever was.
As for the "lame stream media" Lee Atwater taught us an important lesson. The media is against us and the more you remind people about it the better. I'm glad the RNC has the marbles to tell CNN/NBC where to take their bias and stick it.
"What difference" "does it make?"
The Cons need to actually put up their presidential version of Christine McDonnell so they can get shallacked a the polls and perhaps then, they will listen to the general electorate and run candidates that have vision and can win.
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