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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    This would be your opinion, but the fact is we are talking about primary debates not general election debates. What good would one of these debates be on a leftist network anyway - few people would watch - then they'd say look no one is watching. They can reach all they need without NBC/CNN. Hold a debate on CBS, ABC and FOX. Plenty of diverse populations will enjoy and besides - haven't you seen? MSNBC cuts and clips most of the debates for their airing anways.
    Republicans need to swing public opinion again after 8 years of a Democratic-lead country. You don't do that by having a policy of pandering to the same people again and again. Democrats had to learn that lesson the hard way. They had to engage with the massive number of people watching Fox News or on talk radio. It had to be done. There is no need to cut yourself off so soon.

    You don't go repeating crap about the "lame stream media" and expect to impress anyone that isn't already interested.
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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Hillary benefited from a relatively civil Democrat primary. No one benefited from that no-holds-barred Republican primary.
    That was a very heated primary, actually. It wasn't a Kennedy-Carter moment (or for that matter, a Goldwater-Rockefeller moment), but people were worried about it turning into one.
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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    That was a very heated primary, actually. It wasn't a Kennedy-Carter moment (or for that matter, a Goldwater-Rockefeller moment), but people were worried about it turning into one.
    Compared to what we saw in 2011-2012, the 2007-2008 Democrat Primary was exceedingly civil.
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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    I think this is the right move. If NBC wants to be a democratic propaganda machine, then why expose yourself to their bias?
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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Compared to what we saw in 2011-2012, the 2007-2008 Democrat Primary was exceedingly civil.
    I don't think so, but I could just be looking at it differently. For one thing, the Republicans in 11-12 were divided into numerous candidates, whereas the Democratic Party's outcome in '08 was very much like the Republican Party's primary contest that same year (Guiliani, McCain were early favorites). I think this spread out the passion. Eventually it became a matter of Romney or Perry going at it to beat hell, but I just didn't see the bout between two strong-willed, widely supported candidates that I saw on the Democratic end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    I think this is the right move. If NBC wants to be a democratic propaganda machine, then why expose yourself to their bias?
    Because to largely do otherwise seems to contradict with the GOP was planning on doing earlier this year? You know, don't give up on our principles, but go out on a huge messaging campaign to broaden our tent. That report.
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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I don't think so, but I could just be looking at it differently. For one thing, the Republicans in 11-12 were divided into numerous candidates, whereas the Democratic Party's outcome in '08 was very much like the Republican Party's primary contest that same year (Guiliani, McCain were early favorites). I think this spread out the passion. Eventually it became a matter of Romney or Perry going at it to beat hell, but I just didn't see the bout between two strong-willed, widely supported candidates that I saw on the Democratic end.
    What I don't remember seeing in the Democrat primary is every candidate working together to bring down the perceived front runner. 11-12 was essentially every Republican ganging up on whoever they thought was winning to drag them back down. When Newt took the perceived lead, they all ganged up on him. When Perry did, they all brought him down. 07-08 turned into a two strong willed slug fest, but that's very different then a concerted temporary set of alliances that ultimately lead to constant backstabbing.
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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    What I don't remember seeing in the Democrat primary is every candidate working together to bring down the perceived front runner. 11-12 was essentially every Republican ganging up on whoever they thought was winning to drag them back down. When Newt took the perceived lead, they all ganged up on him. When Perry did, they all brought him down. 07-08 turned into a two strong willed slug fest, but that's very different then a concerted temporary set of alliances that ultimately lead to constant backstabbing.
    I guess to me, I see more danger in large coalitions supporting one candidate versus another large coalition supporting the second candidate threatening to break free or stay home if the other were to be nominated. I don't think anything will come close to say, 1912, 1964, and 1968 for either party, but I saw more potential in '08.
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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Because to largely do otherwise seems to contradict with the GOP was planning on doing earlier this year? You know, don't give up on our principles, but go out on a huge messaging campaign to broaden our tent. That report.
    What?

    No. You can broaden your tent while protesting unfair election practices in the form of biased campaign coverage masquerading as news.
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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    That's kind of stupid. I think the primaries helped Clinton a lot, even of Obama won, she connected with a lot of people and we learned a lot about her as her own political force. I would say that it also helped Romney in the year McCain won.
    There are pros & cons to the strategy. If they plan to get out on the stump more, they may be able to still make the connection with the people.

    And yeah.....we learned a couple of things about Hillary. Now as far as being a political force.....only when the Media portrays her as so. Maybe in the Minds of the Feminists out there. Same deal with independent women that just want to see a woman in the Presidency. Of course seen that way thru mostly those that lean left.

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