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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Sorry, this is jibberish. What are you talking about? How did Obama throw middle classers under the bus in favor of 1%ers. If you are referring to the extension of the employer mandate but the retention of the personal mandate, than I suggest you don't understand either. If you are not talking about that, I have no idea what you are trying to say.
    Yeah well, your suggestion would be totally off the mark. As he did give Big Business a break. Uhm that would be those 1%ers. As well as members of Congress. So it's not to difficult to understand hypocrisy when one sees it. While throwing out all those useless platitudes about the Middle Class.

    Also.....its not jibberish. That's what YOUR MAN Obama is about. Jibberish stuttering hypocrisy.

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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    So, we'd wind up with a RINO party (probably called something else) that would include most of the ex Republicans, a few more in the Libertarian Party, another party made up of far right, all with their share of the vote. I think the Democrats would applaud that idea.
    I don't know about that... Both RINO's and progressives are fascists - they just believe in totally different totalitarian utopias... If anything they would break the party apart..... Classical liberals/libertarians/republicans and conservatives would benefit the most because I believe we all respect the Bill of Rights and IMO that is the only thing that matters in our present society.... We're not going to ban business, products, fat people, guns, free speech and other civil liberties etc.... We wont allow our government to spy or target political groups.... I believe we're all on the same page with it comes to those ideas. The RINO's and progressives have absolutely no problem circumventing the Bill of Rights just as long as it leads them to their idea utopia(s).

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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I don't know about that... Both RINO's and progressives are fascists - they just believe in totally different totalitarian utopias... If anything they would break the party apart..... Classical liberals/libertarians/republicans and conservatives would benefit the most because I believe we all respect the Bill of Rights and IMO that is the only thing that matters in our present society.... We're not going to ban business, products, fat people, guns, free speech and other civil liberties etc.... We wont allow our government to spy or target political groups.... I believe we're all on the same page with it comes to those ideas. The RINO's and progressives have absolutely no problem circumventing the Bill of Rights just as long as it leads them to their idea utopia(s).
    How can you even talk about this crap when you support the idea that your government can kidnap and torture foreign citizens at will?

    If you truly believe in the actual ideals themselves, as a human being they must apply to all regardless of nationality.

    Otherwise what you're talking about is delusional nationalist crap, in which your beloved "bill of rights" only applies to those you want it to which in and of itself is its own form of fascism as you seem to want some kind of Homogeneous society where everyone thinks exactly as you do and anyone who doesn't is automatically up to no good and trying to "destroy your way of life".

    This type of thinking is paranoia and a classic lead up to totalitarian states.

    It's projecting at it's most blatant.

    In the end Conservatives like you love to use the word freedom like you truly understand what it means, but when it comes to reality I use the following quote.

    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than it is to live up to them."

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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    From my perspective, having witnessed several of the GOP primary debates during late 2011 and early 2012, I'd say this is good strategy for the GOP. The less exposure some of these asshats get to a national audience, the better. The media just uses these events to focus on the most outrageous thing that the most obscure candidate says and attributes it to the majority of conservative and Republican voters in your country.

    Once the nominee is chosen, and the Presidential race is on between the two chosen candidates, then is the time for the debates to be widely broadcast and CNN and NBC will be back in the game.
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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
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    As for Romney.....he didn't have the plan. Ryan did.
    Which promptly fell apart recently. Ryan's "budget" and I use that term loosely only works at the abstract level. The GOP abandoned it when they tried to move it to a more tangible form. Which is what many of us were saying from the day it was released. It was all smoke and mirrors for those unable to do math. Once the GOP handed it off to their staff to crunch the numbers, they quickly turned sour on it.
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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Sorry, this is jibberish. What are you talking about? How did Obama throw middle classers under the bus in favor of 1%ers. If you are referring to the extension of the employer mandate but the retention of the personal mandate, than I suggest you don't understand either. If you are not talking about that, I have no idea what you are trying to say.
    Well, there's the bank bailout which screwed institutions and stockholders for bond holders who typically are more represented in the 1%. Plenty of 1% got screwed on their equity holdings, but not many 99% have large bond holdings stakes. His support for low interest rates is killing the 99% while benefiting the 1% who largely own the banks and corporations.

    The Detroit Bailouts come to mind. The Obama Administration worked out a bankruptcy plan where all of the legacy costs are transferred to a new organization has can only pay for them via dues and GM/Chrysler Stock. Meaning that the increasing costs can only be paid for by selling off principal or hoping that GM/Chrysler does well. Now the union can't go hat in hand to GM/Chrysler asking for money. If GM/Chrysler have trouble, the union has to start selling off principal stock.

    Obama hasn't been the middle classes's best friend.
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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Which promptly fell apart recently. Ryan's "budget" and I use that term loosely only works at the abstract level. The GOP abandoned it when they tried to move it to a more tangible form. Which is what many of us were saying from the day it was released. It was all smoke and mirrors for those unable to do math. Once the GOP handed it off to their staff to crunch the numbers, they quickly turned sour on it.
    Heya OC. You sure that was the Plan the Democrat White (CA) worked with Ryan on?

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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya OC. You sure that was the Plan the Democrat White (CA) worked with Ryan on?
    Wasn't that just a draft proposal of his original "budget" that he was running with prior to being picked as VP?

    The National Memo House Falls Apart When The GOP Actually Tries To Implement The Ryan Budget

    Going from outline to actual cuts wasn't something the GOP was capable of doing.
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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Hey.....I am not the one that uses the Stuttering thing as a tool and for the camera. That's your man. But I will call him out on it. Although if you really want to see Obama go into a total melt down of trembling stuttering. All one need do is Start using profanity while yelling at him. Then you will see that **** eating grin of a smile when he can't come back with anything off the top of his head.

    As for Romney.....he didn't have the plan. Ryan did.
    LOL ... Guy drives you up a wall with how well he reads a teleprompter --- the guys before him used it, including Reagan, but none nearly as well, not even Clinton ... people don't even realize he's using it ... Bush made it obvious, but in fairness to him he was a Palin-type reader and had to squint anytime he had to read actual letters ...

    as far as Ryan's plan is concerned, which one are you referring to? The one in which a 12 year old girl raped and impregnated by her father can't get an abortion? I'm not so sure that plan will fly all that well ... At least Ryan delivered his state ... Oh, wait, sorry ... my bad ... he did a Gore and didn't ... oops ...

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    Re: RNC Votes to Block CNN, NBC from Hosting Debates.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Perhaps the thinking is that it is better to remain silent and let others think your candidates to be fools than to let them talk and thus remove all doubt.
    I'm sure the libertarian candidates will be treated fairly by NBC.
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