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    Re: State of Emergancy declared in Egypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    A de-stabilized country is an ugly thing to see. And live through.

    hopefully they can come through the other side a better country.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: State of Emergancy declared in Egypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr X View Post
    The Egyptian uprising had nothing to do
    with Obama. Are you saying that Obama should have provided weapons to Mubarak in order to crush the Egyptian public who were demonstrating?
    You can't be that naive...can you ?

    Your'e saying Mubarek's abillity to hold power right up until millions of low information voters elected a Jr Senator with Zero Qualifications AND who had a ideological bone to pick with Israel was based on Coincidence ?

    That the Egyptian Islamic Extremist achieved everything they needed in one year to stage a successful Coup ?

    I'm begining to notice a pattern here.

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    Re: State of Emergancy declared in Egypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    That's like saying Saddam was a friend because he kept his people in check. Sorry, but that place is screwed up regardless of who is in charge.
    IMO, I don't think Saddam was ever a friend he was just tolerated for geopolitical reasons.. Saddam was merely a pawn in the geopolitical game.

    Saddam was a crazy and brutal dictator that continually stepped over the line and the only ones who realized that were the two Bush's... The best part is that his sons (who would have succeeded him) were even crazier and more brutal than he was.

    I only wish the people of Iraq were capable of an "Arab spring" -- they weren't because Iraq was a borderline cult of personality - similar to North Korea (just not as mindboggling whacky)

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    Re: State of Emergancy declared in Egypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Giving weapons and massive financial aid to the Egyptian military is hardly minding our own business.
    We should supply weapons to both sides. Good in that there will be less muslims to deal with and selling arms will strengthen our economy.

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    Re: State of Emergancy declared in Egypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You can't be that naive...can you ?

    Your'e saying Mubarek's abillity to hold power right up until millions of low information voters elected a Jr Senator with Zero Qualifications AND who had a ideological bone to pick with Israel was based on Coincidence ?

    That the Egyptian Islamic Extremist achieved everything they needed in one year to stage a successful Coup ?

    I'm begining to notice a pattern here.
    The successful uprising in Tunisia clearly inspired the Egyptian public, and when the Egyptian army decided to side with the people (probably the deciding factor), Mubarak didn't stand a chance.
    And you didn't answer my question: Do you think the US should have tried to help Mubarak crush the Egyptian protesters? It seems that you approve of Brutal dictatorships killing their own people if it's in the US interests.

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    Re: State of Emergancy declared in Egypt!

    BBC News - Egypt crisis: Gunfire heard at Cairo mosque siege

    Gunfire now heard at the mosque siege on another bloody day.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: State of Emergancy declared in Egypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr X View Post
    The successful uprising in Tunisia clearly inspired the Egyptian public, and when the Egyptian army decided to side with the people (probably the deciding factor), Mubarak didn't stand a chance.
    And you didn't answer my question: Do you think the US should have tried to help Mubarak crush the Egyptian protesters? It seems that you approve of Brutal dictatorships killing their own people if it's in the US interests.
    A little more to it than that.

    After Obama foolishly turned his back on Mubarak, the Egyptian army had to do something.

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    Re: State of Emergancy declared in Egypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    BBC News - Egypt crisis: Gunfire heard at Cairo mosque siege

    Gunfire now heard at the mosque siege on another bloody day.
    That's because the MB opened fire on the Egyptian Military. Other Egyptians were attacking and trying to go after the MB that were locked up in the Mosque. They want them out.


    Egyptians security forces escort an Islamist supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood out of the al-Fatah mosque, after hundreds of Islamist protesters barricaded themselves inside …more the mosque overnight, following a day of fierce street battles that left scores of people dead, near Ramses Square in downtown Cairo, Egypt, Saturday, Aug. 17, 2013. Authorities say police in Cairo are negotiating with people barricaded in a mosque and promising them safe passage if they leave. Muslim Brotherhood supporters of Egypt's ousted Islamist president are vowing to defy a state of emergency with new protests today, adding to the tension

    In the most recent standoff, Egyptian security forces exchanged heavy gunfire Saturday with armed men at top of a minaret of a Cairo mosque. The security forces fired tear gas, stormed the mosque and rounded up hundreds of Islamists supporters of Morsi who had been barricaded inside overnight.

    Egypt's Interior Ministry said in a statement that a total of 1,004 Brotherhood members were detained in raids across the country and that weapons, bombs and ammunition were confiscated with the detainees.

    Among the dead Friday was Ammar Badie, a son of Brotherhood spiritual leader Mohammed Badie, the group's political arm said in a statement.

    Also Saturday, authorities arrested the brother of al-Qaida chief Ayman al-Zawahri, a security official said Saturday. Mohammed al-Zawahri, leader of the ultraconservative Jihadi Salafist group, was detained at a checkpoint in Giza, the city across the Nile from Cairo, the official said.....snip~

    Egypt considers outlawing Muslim Brotherhood

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    Re: State of Emergancy declared in Egypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    It is a bit knee jerk to claim prior to the Arab Spring terrorists were held in check when the Gaza crowd got their weapons through very well known smuggler tunnels from Egypt.

    It would appear the people of Egypt are throwing out the Muslim Brotherhood for overstepping the boundaries of democracy. I'd say that's a good thang.

    Egypt was being bribed big time to keep their standing army at peace but it never the less turned a blind eye to terrorists smuggling arms, and money into Gaza.

    We tried the support your local dictator thing with Iran, I do believe most open minded folks say our refusal to distance ourselves from the vicious crackdown of the secret police in Iran before the fall of the Shah got a radical theocracy installed.

    It does cause me pause to see those who would speak for a dictator in Egypt as someone who prevented religious fanatics totally ignore the dictator who supports and how's nation is the leading exporter of radical religious terrorists from the region.

    Most of the 9-11 hijackers came form which ME country?
    Wahhabi home is in which country?
    Osama been hiding came from which nation?
    1) Pakistan is in Central Asia, not the Middle East. 2) We should really be investigating our good buddies Saudi Arabia because they export a lot of religious fanaticism and terrorism.
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    Re: State of Emergancy declared in Egypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    To a degree sure, but we made a commitment not to mention the House Resolution Bill thats essentially a contractual obligation to defend them.

    We have a commitment to Taiwan and South Korea and when has the threat of supporting our Allies ever intimidated us to change our commitments ?

    I think Obama's ME policy is moré of a threat to Israel than Iran's Nuclear Weapon Program and I'm not chalking it up to his inexperience.
    Where is your evidence that Iran is building nuclear weapons?
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