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    Re: State of Emergancy declared in Egypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Destabilizing
    the region was why we went into Iraq.

    Mubarak was going to die fairly soon. Dictatorships end with the death of the dictator. What do you think would have happened when he died?
    No it wasn't. Saddam Hussien gassed over 100 thousand Iraq Kurds, he had WMDs and both Democrats and Republicans publicly threatened force if his WMD programs continued.

    Clinton himself in 1998 threatened force and isn't Mubarek STILL ALIVE ?

    When did he die ?

    And just because he dies doesn't mean he hasn't named a successor. A succesor who would of hopefully maintained the same type of relationship with the US.

    Dictators dieing doesn't justify the arbitrary and foolish policy decisions that have now turned that Nation into a war zone.

    Obama's probabaly kicking himself for his stupidity......oh wait, he's a full on narcisist.

    Nvmnd, he's already done the mental gymanastics needed to justify it down into a " success "....just as long as no one mentions it.

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    Re: State of Emergancy declared in Egypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    No it wasn't. Saddam Hussien gassed over 100 thousand Iraq Kurds
    In the 80's.

    he had WMDs and both Democrats and Republicans publicly threatened force if his WMD programs continued.
    Those programs had stopped. The guise was the war on terror, but the goal was to destabilize Iran and other malcontents in teh region.

    Clinton himself in 1998 threatened force and isn't Mubarek STILL ALIVE ?
    According to reports, barely. But what difference do a couple of years make?

    And just because he dies doesn't mean he hasn't named a successor. A succesor who would of hopefully maintained the same type of relationship with the US.
    Wish in one hand **** in the other, see what fills up faster.

    Dictators dieing doesn't justify the arbitrary and foolish policy decisions that have now turned that Nation into a war zone.


    Obama's probabaly kicking himself for his stupidity......oh wait, he's a full on narcisist.
    It's not Obama's fault the people of Egypt wanted to overthrow their dictator.

    Nvmnd, he's already done the mental gymanastics needed to justify it down into a " success "....just as long as no one mentions it.
    As I said earlier, ODS is just as bad, if not worse than, BDS ever was.
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    Re: State of Emergancy declared in Egypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Yep, the " Arab Spring ".

    We had a friend over there once, who kept the Muslim Extremist in Check, and who was also a partner in our fight against Islamic Terrorist.

    Now, Obama laments the rising violence and destabilization of a Country that was once considered an Ally to the US.

    And it's only because he knows the situation is to far gone for him to take credit for it.
    So freedom and democracy should be denied to the people of Egypt because the dictator was our ally??

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    Re: State of Emergancy declared in Egypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Doesn't the latter undermine the former?
    To a degree sure, but we made a commitment not to mention the House Resolution Bill thats essentially a contractual obligation to defend them.

    We have a commitment to Taiwan and South Korea and when has the threat of supporting our Allies ever intimidated us to change our commitments ?

    I think Obama's ME policy is moré of a threat to Israel than Iran's Nuclear Weapon Program and I'm not chalking it up to his inexperience.

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    Re: State of Emergancy declared in Egypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    SEE ??!!

    Unreal. Your kneejerk response to the keyword " DICTATOR " is noted.

    Your'e being NAIVE.....and the " Fascist" comment is just hillarious. It's Internet Debate 101. You'll be calling me a NAZI in no time.

    This Nations ME priority SHOULD be the Safety of our Nation and the Safety of Israel. Above all and if that means supporting a " DICTATOR" who's been a Ally to the US and who also happens to keep the Islamo-Nuts in check FOR YEARS then so be it.

    It would make sense that a hard left Jr Senator with ZERO experience would come in with your ideology in mind. A simplistic view of the world and of the ME.

    Obama's ME policy is this broad brush approach without any consideration to the consequences, and he actually tried to take credit for it...LOL !!

    Remember the US sychophant reporters from CNN in Tahrir Square trying to get "Thank You Obama" sound bites from the protestors ?? Lol..

    What a dolt. Presidents before him knew the value of assistance to leaders and dictators IF it kept the area stable and Mubarek did just that.

    The current unrest speaks for itself so I really don't have to argue the point. Notice the whole " Arab Spring thanks to Obama's Foriegn Policy Genius " False Narrative is long gone ?

    Lol...." fascist"
    The Egyptian uprising had nothing to do with Obama. Are you saying that Obama should have provided weapons to Mubarak in order to crush the Egyptian public who were demonstrating?

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    Re: State of Emergancy declared in Egypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr X View Post
    So freedom and democracy should be denied to the people of Egypt because the dictator was our ally??
    LOL !!!!

    What are you 12 ?

    Because I was watching CNN this morning and if THAT's " FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY " then we havn't done them any favors.

    Plus I don't buy the whole instant " Democracy " just add water, Narrative.

    Obama knew full well that the ouster of Mubarek meant the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood. A organization that is hostile against Israel and the US and a orginaization that doesn't believe in freedom or Democracy.

    It was ....the point. Maybe Obama thought it might be a good way to return Israel back to its pre-1967 borders but it's clear, with the support that the typical US President has, that he knew a radical Islamic Group was moving in.

    Some " Democracy" , especially if your'e a woman.

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    Re: State of Emergancy declared in Egypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    To a degree sure, but we made a commitment not to mention the House Resolution Bill thats essentially a contractual obligation to defend them.
    I don't support arbitrary and foolish policy decisions that place US lives at risk.
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    Re: State of Emergancy declared in Egypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I don't support arbitrary and foolish
    policy decisions that place US lives at risk.
    Back to Iraq ?

    Minus all of the Democrat false narratives and the demonization of Bush, looking back I would have to say it was a bad decision.

    If your'e against policy decisions that endanger US lives than Egypt and Lybia should be high on your list too.

    I'm not a Paul Bot who thinks our meddling is what causes acts of terror against the US.

    We made a Commitment to Israel, whether Obama likes it or not and we should stick to our commitments.

    Not supporting Mubarek was foolish and irresponsible.

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    Re: State of Emergancy declared in Egypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Back to Iraq ?
    Nope.
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    Re: State of Emergancy declared in Egypt!

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    It seems that much of the region is seemingly in emergency mode most of the time these days. As much as I hate to say it, maybe they were better off with dictators. At least it wasn't keeping the whole freaking world in a state of unease.
    A de-stabilized country is an ugly thing to see. And live through.
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