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Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry' [W:245]

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Higgins86 said:
he should of expected a beating, still doesnt mean he deserved one.
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Oh, and I am sorry if said 13 year old isnt "street smart" enough to not tell about drugs in his school.
 
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justabubba said:
what al 'tawanna brawley' sharpton, jesse 'hymietown' jackson, or any other race baiters would do has no bearing on this matter
this was not a racially motivated incident
if the kid who ratted them out had been black, he would have gotten his ass beaten by the three perps, too
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Probably, but so what? He wasnt black, he was white. Younger, smaller, weaker and over powered by three thugs.
 
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justabubba said:
nice diversion. won't work

the reality is the man uses language which impairs his ability for economic attainment

your refusal to acknowledge that amplifies what is often found within the black community. the use of ebonics and a refusal to adopt the predominate language of the community handicaps those who find no reason to change their spoken and written language
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No diversion. You initially said that he doesn't use the predominant language of his community. The problem, however, is that he speaks English so you were wrong. Now, if what you MEANT to say was he doesn't use the predominant DIALECT of his community, you would still probably be wrong because AAVE is likely the predominant dialect of his community as well. So, you're wrong on two fronts. Now, if you were to change your argument to, "He is not speaking the dialect that is most respected by most of those in power in the US," then you would be correct.

Side note: your use of the term "ebonics" over AAVE is another indicator of your ignorance.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
So you are part of the "snitches get stitches" generation. Pretty pathetic.
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that he said the victim didn't deserve to get a beating tells us quite the opposite
 
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CRUE CAB said:
So you dont think that Sharpton and the rest of the race mongers would have done an about face and hauled butt back down here had the race roles been reversed?
Seriously.
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You mean just as you are doing? Well, yes he might, but then I thought most people think Sharpton's an asshole. Why are you copying him?
 
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ThePlayDrive said:
No diversion. You initially said that he doesn't use the predominant language of his community. The problem, however, is that he speaks English so you were wrong. Now, if what you MEANT to say was he doesn't use the predominant DIALECT of his community, you would still probably be wrong because AAVE is likely the predominant language of his community. So, you're wrong on two fronts. Now, if you were to change your argument to, "He is not speaking the dialect that is most respected by most of those in power in the US," then you would be correct.

Side note: your use of the term "ebonics" over AAVE is another indicator of your ignorance.
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you keep splitting hairs to avoid responding to the reality of the circumstance
the man does not speak the predominant language of the community. if he had, you would not see his expression being the subject of ridicule within this thread
poor language habits, like work habits, impairs economic advancement
which is why expressions of acceptance of such language, as illustrated by the defense you are attempting to put up, undermines the efforts to motivate those with weak skills to enhance them
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Probably, but so what? He wasnt black, he was white. Younger, smaller, weaker and over powered by three thugs.
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good. then we agree is that this was an incident involving four juveniles, and that their race played no effect upon the incident
 
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justabubba said:
the man does not speak the predominant language of the community.
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Look, you need to either learn the difference between a language and a dialect or we're done. How do you expect me to have a conversation with someone about linguistics if they don't know the basics of it? I'm trying to work with you here.
 
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Parents that video is exactly why you move to small white towns...so crap like that is minimized if not eliminated from happening...you can't as a good parent allow your children to go to school with animals that haven't evolved enough to get along correctly in our civilized society.
 
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ThePlayDrive said:
Look, you need to either learn the difference between a language and a dialect or we're done. How do you expect me to have a conversation with someone about linguistics if they don't know the basics of it? I'm trying to work with you here.
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if he spoke the predominant language of the community we would not be having this discussion
 
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Lutherf said:
So probation would be too hash a sentence?

How about if we bought them sundaes but didn't allow them to have the cherry? Still too much?
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Not even related to what I was saying. Knee-jerk much?
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Hog wash.
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Do you believe that children should be allowed to drink alcohol, gamble and vote? If so, at what age? If not, why?
 
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Watching that video infuriates me. If that had happened to my kid. We would stake these punks out catch them alone and then my son would get some justice the same way they gave it to that kid. Maybe with a baseball bat or tire iron...eye for an eye.Long prison sentences in those thugs future all on the taxpayers dole.
 
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disneydude said:
Do you believe that children should be allowed to drink alcohol, gamble and vote? If so, at what age? If not, why?
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No, and I dont believe they should walk away laughing from a vicious beating with a slap on the wrist.
 
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ocean515 said:
Perhaps the responses are due to the violent nature of their attack.

Normal 14 year old kids don't attempt to physically eliminate another human being with their bare hands and feet. Their documented attempt to do so identifies them as something unusual: an aberration.

Society is right to demand lifelong protection from these "people".
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ocean I agree with you. As a parent I also would like my kids to be safe in school or on the school bus. However, what I am critiquing is the punishment level. How do we set the bar for "acceptible fighting" vs "agressive fighting". Don't get me wrong, they need to be punish but I don't think these kids were trying to kill or permanently harm him. Otherwise they would not have done it on a school bus in front of everybody. Plan and simple some kids are more aggressive then others.

I think if the kid that was attack was bigger and stronger, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
No, and I dont believe they should walk away laughing from a vicious beating with a slap on the wrist.
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Fails to address the question. If not, why? Why should children not be allowed to drink alcohol, gamble and vote? What is the basis of your believing in the restriction?
 
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justabubba said:
good. then we agree is that this was an incident involving four juveniles, and that their race played no effect upon the incident
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Yea, we are willing to agree that all the what ifs dont mean diddly.
They were black and I can garantee if they were white and the 13 year old were black, it would be a hate crime. No matter what started it.
 
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Lysander said:
Parents that video is exactly why you move to small white towns...so crap like that is minimized if not eliminated from happening...you can't as a good parent allow your children to go to school with animals that haven't evolved enough to get along correctly in our civilized society.
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where in north carolina could this kind of incident not be possible?
 
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disneydude said:
Fails to address the question. If not, why? Why should children not be allowed to drink alcohol, gamble and vote? What is the basis of your believing in the restriction?
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Work in the justice system for a while, then get back to me.
 
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Lysander said:
Parents that video is exactly why you move to small white towns...so crap like that is minimized if not eliminated from happening...you can't as a good parent allow your children to go to school with animals that haven't evolved enough to get along correctly in our civilized society.
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IDK, as a former "prey" child from predominantly white communities, my abuse was almost entirely at the hands of other white kids.

Adolescent males of any "race" are potentially dangerous.

My "14 words":

"Some people are so stupid that the world would be better off without them"
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Work in the justice system for a while, then get back to me.
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I've worked in the justice system for the last 25 years and currently still do.

What is the rational basis for age restrictions for drinkin, gambling and voting in your mind?
 
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Tucker Case said:
That's only because our racist criminal justice system persecutes the white man. Haven't you been reading the thread?
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It's all "whites" fault.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Yea, we are willing to agree that all the what ifs dont mean diddly.
They were black and I can garantee if they were white and the 13 year old were black, it would be a hate crime. No matter what started it.
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Not really...there actually needs to be proof it was racially motivated.
 
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Lysander said:
Parents that video is exactly why you move to small white towns...so crap like that is minimized if not eliminated from happening...you can't as a good parent allow your children to go to school with animals that haven't evolved enough to get along correctly in our civilized society.
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Dude this has nothing to do with race. Would you still call them animals if the kids that were beating him up were white?
 
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rcart76 said:
This is why I don't understand people train of thought here. How many of us growing up saw kids get beat up in school by a group of kids or bullies? Is this the new norm now? You get into a fight and beat another kid up and now you will see jail time?

Really???

Is this the best solution with our tax dollars? Throw these kids to the wolves???? Hell Expell their a**es. But don't take their lives away.
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Juvenile detention or reform school is not taking their lives away it is protecting society from morons that will retaliate for being held accountable for their actions.
 
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