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Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry' [W:245]

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By the way you are trying to race bait me, I can see you getting whipped pretty regular.

unfortunately I was the one doing a lot of the "whipping" at school as I fancied myself as a bit of a thug and was constantly in trouble. However I grew up and realised the error of my ways and have become a pretty decent member of society. If you don't allow kids to learn from their mistakes we are royally ****ed as a species.
 
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Brawl implies that the other kid had a chance. This was a straight up beating.
Had the races been reversed, the 15 year olds would probably never see the light of day again. Much less be given 9 months of juvi probation.

Seems like crimes that involve money are the ones that get toughest sentences; take Bernie Madoff for example (the guy's a loser, but that's besides the point). However, you can beat or rape someone and get off fairly lightly. :roll: Shows what's REALLY important in our society.
 
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School bus beating suspects appear in court | Fox News Video



You have GOT to be kidding here? The father saying "I'm sorry for what happened to the victim, but that's just the way it is?" What the hell is that?

Sorry, but these kids, all three of them should be charged as adults, and serve time.

What say you?

I'd be willing to bet that father has been making excuses for his spawn all of his life.
I've dealt with lots of parents like that. "My child is good, he never lies, he was just led astray by bad boys, oh, he would never do anything like that, you're just making it up, let's hear his side of the story, etc.,etc,.
 
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If you want to make it so. Were the 3 15 yearolds black? Was the victim white? Reverse that and tell me what would be happening right now if the judge gave 3 white kids 9 months probation for viciously beating a smaller younger black kid?

why are some many trying to make this a racist incident? these were three older kids who brutally beat up a younger kid. the victim reportedly told authorities that one of the three was dealing weed on campus
the only racism involved is from a few board members who attempt to frame any incident where the participants were of different ethnicities as racially motivated
is there anything to suggest the victim would not have been beaten for ratting them out if he had been black? if not, then this is not a racial incident
The brutal incident made national headlines, in part because video of the attack captured on the bus’ surveillance camera went viral online. It also prompted critics to question why civil rights leaders did not speak up about the assault.
looks like faux news is coaching the wannabe racists, positing that civil rights groups should involve themselves in a matter which has no racial basis

this is confirmed by the police chief's assessment:
The attackers were all African-American and the victim was white, although Gulfport Police Chief Robert Vincent told Fox News the attack did not appear to be racially motivated.
[my emphasis added]
 
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why are some many trying to make this a racist incident? these were three older kids who brutally beat up a younger kid. the victim reportedly told authorities that one of the three was dealing weed on campus
the only racism involved is from a few board members who attempt to frame any incident where the participants were of different ethnicities as racially motivated
is there anything to suggest the victim would not have been beaten for ratting them out if he had been black? if not, then this is not a racial incident

looks like faux news is coaching the wannabe racists, positing that civil rights groups should involve themselves in a matter which has no racial basis

this is confirmed by the police chief's assessment: [my emphasis added]
After what Florida just went through, yea. Its about race. Now if that makes me a racist. You will have to do a better job making that stick.
 
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You should trying reading it often proves beneficial. The three monkeys beat the child because he told on them selling drugs which very unusual for blacks to be selling drugs, isn't i?

The race of those involved should not be an issue. The motive for the attack was not racial; it was a (premeditated?) revenge beating for reporting alleged illegal activity (soliciting drug sales). Trying to make race into an issue detracts from the real issue which is a violent beating being given to those reporting crime. The lesson to be learned, by all reading this story, is that reporting crime can get you seriously beaten (or worse) so it is wiser to let crime go unreported. The punsihment for juveniles selling weed is likley about the same as for juveniles severely beating up those that report it, so why not keep on beating up anyone that dares to interfere with your drug sales?
 
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After what Florida just went through, yea. Its about race. Now if that makes me a racist.
no, this is not about race ... at least until the race baiters show up

You will have to do a better job making that stick.
i suspect many of us have already formed our opinion based on racist drivel we have seen in posts
 
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School bus beating suspects appear in court | Fox News Video



You have GOT to be kidding here? The father saying "I'm sorry for what happened to the victim, but that's just the way it is?" What the hell is that?

Sorry, but these kids, all three of them should be charged as adults, and serve time.

What say you?

Sounds to me like the guy is not that articulate. "That is just the way it is" could be an attempt to express, "I wish I could change the past, but I can't" or "No matter how you try to teach your kids to be good people, they meet up with bad people who have greater influence in getting your kid to do bad things."

I really cannot judge him one way or the other on the quote. My parents were the same people who raised both straight A students and kids who were holy terrors. What went on behind closed doors to try to get the holy terrors to not be that way was no lack of effort on their part. There are just limits to how much parents can do, especially with kids are who easily swayed by peer pressure or are inclined to be rebellious no matter how you punish them or how often.
 
Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

School bus beating suspects appear in court | Fox News Video



You have GOT to be kidding here? The father saying "I'm sorry for what happened to the victim, but that's just the way it is?" What the hell is that?

Sorry, but these kids, all three of them should be charged as adults, and serve time.

What say you?

"My son ain't never been no bad person. Holy****. That's like a triple negative right there. Mind blown.
 
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Sounds to me like the guy is not that articulate. "That is just the way it is" could be an attempt to express, "I wish I could change the past, but I can't" or "No matter how you try to teach your kids to be good people, they meet up with bad people who have greater influence in getting your kid to do bad things."

I really cannot judge him one way or the other on the quote. My parents were the same people who raised both straight A students and kids who were holy terrors. What went on behind closed doors to try to get the holy terrors to not be that way was no lack of effort on their part. There are just limits to how much parents can do, especially with kids are who easily swayed by peer pressure or are inclined to be rebellious no matter how you punish them or how often.

that may be
he insists his kid has already suffered consequences of his actions
did he get his ass beat and placed on severe restriction
or did he get his play station taken away for the weekend

his inarticulation may be responsible for the father's apparent willingness to say his son should not be held responsible because his acts were only due to his association with bad people. translation: my son should not be held responsible for his horrific actions in this matter
 
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"My son ain't never been no bad person. Holy****. That's like a triple negative right there. Mind blown.

while it may be ebonic usage, we know what he meant
 
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These kids should have to serve time in juvi for what they did. That was a serious assault and three on one! If they don't get punished severely, what kind of adults are they going to be?
 
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no, this is not about race ... at least until the race baiters show up


i suspect many of us have already formed our opinion based on racist drivel we have seen in posts
Oh, boo hoo.
Man it was about race all day long when a "white" man shot a black kid in self defense.
But a vid clearly showing 3 black kids wailing on a smaller younger white kid, oh no there is no race componant there.
Please, and only 9 months probation? Thats the real travesty no matter what color anyone is. Top that with "daddy's" comments afterwards.
Yea, some real fine people we are talking about there.
 
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These kids should have to serve time in juvi for what they did. That was a serious assault and three on one! If they don't get punished severely, what kind of adults are they going to be?

only if that is the sentence which is most likely to cause these perps' lives to be turned around
is there something else which might better effect that result
 
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"My son ain't never been no bad person. Holy****. That's like a triple negative right there. Mind blown.

A negative times an odd number is still negative. A triple negative doesn't change the meaning, while a double negative does. Mind thoroughly blown.
 
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its school and unfortunately it goes on, if u sentenced every kid as an adult you will have to build more prisons.

Or we could build more gallows. That would help stop repeat offenders and reduce prison overpopulation.
 
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only if that is the sentence which is most likely to cause these perps' lives to be turned around
is there something else which might better effect that result

There are all kinds of things they could do while they serve their time. This is where rehabilitation measures should be concentrated. Not on the adult career criminal, but on the kids who still have a chance of being rehabilitated.
 
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Oh, boo hoo.
Man it was about race all day long when a "white" man shot a black kid in self defense.
obviously, it was wrong there to make this a racist incident
and notice, it was not one ... at least not until the race baiters took their cue and showed up


But a vid clearly showing 3 black kids wailing on a smaller younger white kid, oh no there is no race componant there.
no. there was NOT a racial component there. it happened to be three black perps and one white victim. but their racial composition had NO bearing on the incident

at least not until the race baiters show up and pretend otherwise ... just like in sanford, florida


Please, and only 9 months probation? Thats the real travesty no matter what color anyone is.
drug testing
no contact with the victim ... keeps him safe (at least from them)
and they will be subject to the terms of probation - whatever those terms of probation might be - where they had no threat of incarceration for their actions before
so, while it may not be the best sentence the state should impose, it is certainly more intervention than existed before

but i am curious. tell us what you think would be a better punishment imposed by the court in this case

Top that with "daddy's" comments afterwards.
what of them? that his kid got involved with a wrong group. seems fair
that his kid has already faced consequences for his actions. was he hinting that he beat his kid's ass and put him on permanent restriction?

Yea, some real fine people we are talking about there.
what we do know is this was the perps' FIRST legal brush with the law
we know this was a violent incident which deserves to be punished severely
what else do we know about them? share your insights with us
 
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"My son ain't never been no bad person. Holy****. That's like a triple negative right there. Mind blown.

When that is from the parents, what do you expect the child to be like? No matter the color, I have heard whites talk just like that down here.
 
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"My son ain't never been no bad person.

Actually it's a double negative saying that he son has always been a bad person. Perhaps it's a Freudian slip.
 
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There are all kinds of things they could do while they serve their time. This is where rehabilitation measures should be concentrated. Not on the adult career criminal, but on the kids who still have a chance of being rehabilitated.

don't just tell us there are lots of things which could be done
tell us what specific conditions should be imposed on the perps to turn their lives around
 
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don't just tell us there are lots of things which could be done
tell us what specific conditions should be imposed on the perps to turn their lives around

For one, I would place them in an environment where they are required to take care of something or someone. Nothing rehabilitates like concern for something besides yourself. Make them work in an animal shelter, taking care of abandoned animals. Teach them how to grow plants, and work the natural environment.
 
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I believe charging them as adults would be extreme. If the boy had died then I would be in agreement. I would say a few years in juvenile with some community service and anger management classes would be appropriate. What is the normal sentence for assualt by a minor?

The prosecution is recommending 9 months probation for two of them. the oldest one, who robbed the victim after they beat him senseless, is facing harsher penalties.

Nine months probation. Seriously?!?!?

If my son was the victim, I'd find my own justice.
 
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curious. tell us what you think would be a better punishment imposed by the court in this case

Five years adult jail.
Just like I would get if me and two buddies assaulted you on the street, beating you and breaking your arm.
Followed by 5 years probation.
Until we decide to actually punish violent criminals, nothing will get better. Nothing will stop.
 
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