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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I think it was pretty clear what was in the boys heads. Violent revenge for being ratted on.
    I don't disagree, but before we have the consequences of a permanent record, and the possibility of creating a life long societal problem, we need to have the professionals determine if there is a chance that the three could be rehabilitated at this age, but I think that jail time is a must.
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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    So you would just have your kid lay there and take it?
    Just ball up in a fetal position and let them have their way and hope they go away?
    so wise [/sarcasm for those who need it]
    that there are only two possibilities as a such a parent:
    1. do nothing and be a defenseless target; or
    2. do what your dad taught you and cut the ****er so that he bleeds out

    rationality is seldom found in the extremes. probably something your father never taught you and certainly something you have not taught your kids ... no, let's teach them how to bleed out a human. who the hell does that?!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Teens that are willing to beat a person like this.
    Raised by what we saw of the father.
    Given a slap on the wrist.
    Selling dope.
    Maybe in some polyanna utopia those behaviours can be changed. But here in the real world, nope.
    The parenting is a problem, I'll concede to that point, but there are plenty of people who had crappy parents and turned out fine too. It all depends upon the individual.

    As to your last statement, it's just not true. There are plenty of people who have turned their lives around to become productive citizens.

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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    So you would just have your kid lay there and take it?
    Just ball up in a fetal position and let them have their way and hope they go away?
    So what do we do, arm our 13 year olds with razor knives? Nah....
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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I don't disagree, but before we have the consequences of a permanent record, and the possibility of creating a life long societal problem, we need to have the professionals determine if there is a chance that the three could be rehabilitated at this age, but I think that jail time is a must.
    The "professionals" have had a couple of generations to do whatever they can. This is what they came up with.
    Entitlement society that has no consequences for bad behaviour.
    Until we start jailing for long periods, these type people will not get the message.
    Things like this happen, and instead of using them as teaching moments to our society. We blow it off, we cowar in fear of what really needs to happen with these people.
    We are not talking about a school yard fight, or some bullying. You cant tell me you saw the video and not thought you saw three people trying to kill someone.
    This site is all about "what ifs". So, what if the 13 year old was your boy?
    Would you want the system to fail him and pat the perps on the back side and tell them not to do it again?

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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So what do we do, arm our 13 year olds with razor knives? Nah....
    I and most of my class mates had knives.
    We all carried Buck knives when we were teens. And guess what, nothing like this ever happend. There were fights, but it was one on one and no one was in danger of broken bones and having the life stomped out of them.

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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    The "professionals" have had a couple of generations to do whatever they can. This is what they came up with.
    Entitlement society that has no consequences for bad behaviour.
    Until we start jailing for long periods, these type people will not get the message.
    Things like this happen, and instead of using them as teaching moments to our society. We blow it off, we cowar in fear of what really needs to happen with these people.
    We are not talking about a school yard fight, or some bullying. You cant tell me you saw the video and not thought you saw three people trying to kill someone.
    This site is all about "what ifs". So, what if the 13 year old was your boy?
    Would you want the system to fail him and pat the perps on the back side and tell them not to do it again?
    No, and that is not what I am saying here. I think that anyone you ask on this board will tell you that of the posters in here I am probably closer to your thinking on this than apart from it. All I am saying is that we can't have a system that takes first offense 15 year olds, and throws away the key. Is it a problem in the culture that certain segments of our society glorifies this sort of act? Hell yes. But I think that we need to approach each incident individually. Hell, it could be that these three need to be in adult lock up for 5 years. But, I don't know yet.

    We have to be careful in this society not to go overboard as well....If you ask me, I want to know what happened that let these three know that this boy was the one who went to the school administration about them? And why the school administrator thought it was a good idea to put him on that bus with the three he just informed on.
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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I and most of my class mates had knives.
    We all carried Buck knives when we were teens. And guess what, nothing like this ever happend. There were fights, but it was one on one and no one was in danger of broken bones and having the life stomped out of them.
    Some schools in this country are dangerous enough without arming the students. I don't know what country setting you went to school in, and at what period of time you attended, but I went to primary school in the late 70s and even then, with the advent of bussing, we had police presence, and toward the end, metal detectors at the front doors...
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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry' [W:245]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
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    You have GOT to be kidding here? The father saying "I'm sorry for what happened to the victim, but that's just the way it is?" What the hell is that?

    Sorry, but these kids, all three of them should be charged as adults, and serve time.

    What say you?
    Stake them to the ground, pour honey on them and let the red ants loose.

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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry' [W:245]

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman909 View Post
    Stake them to the ground, pour honey on them and let the red ants loose.
    I didn't say that, or anything close. At the OP I was outraged in the vicious beating of that 13 year old for doing what society drums into him from early childhood what he should do, then to have not only the school, but the bus driver stand by and NOT render aid during the attack. In the course of the thread I have couched my early statement opening this thread, but make no mistake, your attempt to come in here and mischaracterize my views on this case are noted, and anything but welcome. You should take the time and read the thread before posting, not just the first post and then lash out, it makes you look uninformed.
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