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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    It is possible that in these boys case it may be possible to turn them around, but while they are incarcerated they also undergo therapy, and do community service in maybe a hospital emergency room, or something to show them the reality of what it is they did to this 13 year old.
    That, and I really liked some of lizzie's ideas too, such as training and working with animals. I think that teaches kids empathy.

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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    It is. Defending oneself is an intrinsic right to all people. Its also a responsibilty of parents to teach their children to defend and when to defend.
    We didnt raise boys, we raised men.
    teaching children how to bleed out a human
    and being proud of it
    disqualifies anything you have to say about the perps' parents' parenting
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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That is a generalization I am not willing at this point to make. If we just give up, (and I can understand that temptation) and say screw it don't look at them individually and make the right call, then we loose I think.
    Its not a generalization. Its an opinion based on the video evidence presented. The determination of the court and the attitude of the "father".
    They didnt give the kid a wedgie, they beat him mercilessly and broke his arm.

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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No one is stating that they didn't understand right from wrong. What I and others are saying is that we as a society recognize that children do not have the same mature mental capacity to make reasoned judgements which is why we don't allow kids to drink alcohol, gamble or vote. It is hypocritical to treat them as if they have mature mental capacity for some things but not others.
    Same argument I heard back in the nam days about drinking. "If I'm old enough to fight and die for my country, shouldn't I be old enough to buy a beer?"

    I think we all know, and pretty much agree, that punishment for breaking the law should vary depending on many factors, age being one of them. The problem here is, we have 15 year olds, old enough in more serious cases, to be tried as adults, beating the **** out of a 13 year old, who hasn't even started to grow hair on his balls yet.

    Now, if the 15 year olds were adult, it would be a second degree felony and rack them up some big years in the big house. No one is suggesting that. But this, "Bad boy! Don't you do this again for nine months or we MIGHT put you in jail," simply is not enough.

    Then again, if the 13 year old were my son who was jumped and pummeled, I would be wanting these punk ass pieces of **** to get their head's torn off so I could defecate down their neck. Then I would file the max civil charges I could on the parents.

    But if it was my 15 year old "child," doing the "naughty deeds," I would be wanting all the mercy the court could sling his way.

    But none of these kids are mine. So I'm going to side on behalf of the 13 year old and wish that the 15 year old's get sent to preparatory prison (a.k.a. juvenile detention,) until they are 18 years old. That's the education these young men need. Because I have a feeling, given their parenting and court coddling, that's where they are headed.

    But the prosecution only wants 9 months probation. It doesn't matter what we think.
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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    teaching children how to bleed out a human
    and being proud of it
    disqualifies anything you have to say about the perps' parents' parenting
    So you would just have your kid lay there and take it?
    Just ball up in a fetal position and let them have their way and hope they go away?

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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    teaching children how to bleed out a human
    and being proud of it
    disqualifies anything you have to say about the perps' parents' parenting
    Oh, taught them how to gut fish and skin deer too. Bad parent bad parent. Hahahahaha

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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    But they are not adults. Just what kind of sentencing do you think they should serve? Do you think they should be thrown into adult prisons?
    Might as well give them a head start. They will all probably end up in adult prison before their lives are over, if not the cemetery.

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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Might as well give them a head start. They will all probably end up in adult prison before their lives are over, if not the cemetery.
    I'm quite sure there are plenty of people that were troubled teens who are alive and living productive lives. If anyone is capable of being rehabilitated, it would be children and teens.

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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Might as well give them a head start. They will all probably end up in adult prison before their lives are over, if not the cemetery.
    Thats a guarantee.

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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'm quite sure there are plenty of people that were troubled teens who are alive and living productive lives. If anyone is capable of being rehabilitated, it would be children and teens.
    Teens that are willing to beat a person like this.
    Raised by what we saw of the father.
    Given a slap on the wrist.
    Selling dope.
    Maybe in some polyanna utopia those behaviours can be changed. But here in the real world, nope.

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