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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Bull, parents that instill proper beliefs in their children from the beginning do not have these problems with their kids just about killing a class mate on a school bus.
    Free will can be reigned in with proper upbringing
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    That is your incorrect opinion, which, with a few dollars,will buy you a cup of coffee.

    But I'm not buying it.

    My observation, after living on this planet for seventy years, is that's not the way that life works.

    But, hey, believe whatever you want to believe.

    Won't cost me a nickel, or cramp my lifestyle.
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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry' [W:245]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    That is your incorrect opinion, which, with a few dollars,will buy you a cup of coffee.

    But I'm not buying it.

    My observation, after living on this planet for seventy years, is that's not the way that life works.

    But, hey, believe whatever you want to believe.

    Won't cost me a nickel, or cramp my lifestyle.
    So you believe these three were born anti social?
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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry' [W:245]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So you believe these three were born anti social?
    Well I honestly believe that sometimes teenagers can make stupid decisions and do some really stupid things. No matter how much you drill into their heads, they are still going to make errors in judgment and when they get together with other friends, forget about it. Then mob mentality seems to prevail a lot of times with teenagers. They aren't perfect. Nobody is, no matter how "good" your parenting may have been.

    Anyway, that in no way means that they should get off lightly. They need to learn the hard way and not be given a "pass" for this type of violent behavior regardless of the reasons behind it.

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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry' [W:245]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So you believe these three were born anti social?



    That is projection on your part.

    I did not say that, you did. I wouldn't make a comment like that.

    I believe that some people like to try to put their words in other peoples mouths. Why do they do this?

    Maybe because they are ashamed to let the world get a peek inside their brain and see how they really think.

    If you have something to say, go ahead and say it, don't try to ascribe your far right thoughts and comments to others.
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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    No we are not. We are prudent to start punishing offenders as early as possible. This was a violent vicious attack for no real reason.
    True...but it doesn't change the facts that we as a society recognize that children are different from adults and believe that they are not emotionally and mentally mature enough to make wise and reasoned decisions. We recognize that their judgement is not the same as adults. So why would we ever treat them as we would adults?
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    True...but it doesn't change the facts that we as a society recognize that children are different from adults and believe that they are not emotionally and mentally mature enough to make wise and reasoned decisions. We recognize that their judgement is not the same as adults. So why would we ever treat them as we would adults?
    So we do nothing.
    And dont start throwing out all the mamby pamby things that already have been done and tried.
    I have a newphew that got the same punishment for breaking into a home.
    He didnt hurt anyone, but he did take a minibike off the porch.
    Him and his idiot buddy thought because it was a classmate and friend it would be ok, well the parents of the other kid didnt feel the same way. LOL
    But thats about what he got, 9 months probation.
    He didnt hurt anyone, he didnt really "steal" in the sense that it was for profit. It was joy riding. But it was wrong and he knew it.
    So he got busted. Lost alot of time out of school and was kicked off the baseball team. Of which he was scolarship bound probably to Florida State.
    So he gets the same punishment as the three thugs that beat another kid mercilessly and break his arm.

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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    So we do nothing.
    And dont start throwing out all the mamby pamby things that already have been done and tried.
    I have a newphew that got the same punishment for breaking into a home.
    He didnt hurt anyone, but he did take a minibike off the porch.
    Him and his idiot buddy thought because it was a classmate and friend it would be ok, well the parents of the other kid didnt feel the same way. LOL
    But thats about what he got, 9 months probation.
    He didnt hurt anyone, he didnt really "steal" in the sense that it was for profit. It was joy riding. But it was wrong and he knew it.
    So he got busted. Lost alot of time out of school and was kicked off the baseball team. Of which he was scolarship bound probably to Florida State.
    So he gets the same punishment as the three thugs that beat another kid mercilessly and break his arm.
    No. We should punish them harshly in the juvenile system.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    True...but it doesn't change the facts that we as a society recognize that children are different from adults and believe that they are not emotionally and mentally mature enough to make wise and reasoned decisions. We recognize that their judgement is not the same as adults. So why would we ever treat them as we would adults?
    I agree completely, so abortion up to the age of 18 should still be an option.

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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No. We should punish them harshly in the juvenile system.
    Define harsh.

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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Define harsh.
    Most Juvenile systems have a long range of options starting from informal probation to probation to placement in a group home to camp to boot camp all the way up to youth prison where they can be house up to the age of 25.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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