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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Uh, no. It's literally a dialect, as I said. And in every society, certain dialects are irrationally looked down upon by many of those who use whatever dialect is used by those in power. In the United States, Standard English is the dialect primarily used by those in power and so many people who use it - like yourself - arrogantly and stupidly look down upon those who other dialects like AAVE and SAE among others by calling their dialect things like "a handicap". It's sad really that so much negative has to come out of the ignorance that people like you display.
    Proper speaking english is used by people in power? Hmm, I guess having half a brain means you are in power.

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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    He was speaking English - that is the predominant language of his community. Are you confusing dialect and language? Those are two separate things.


    Again, he was speaking English. What are you talking about? This does not apply to him.


    See above. It strikes me that you are ignorant about the difference between a dialect and a language. That's a pretty serious problem, particularly when you're attempting to have a conversation about how people speak. I would suggest that when it comes to calling people ignorant you not throw stones living in that glass house.
    the man's language is not that which is coincident with that of the predominant population
    which difference impairs his opportunity for economic advancement
    no matter how much you object to that reality, it remains reality
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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Proper speaking english is used by people in power? Hmm, I guess having half a brain means you are in power.
    There is no such thing as "proper" English. There is Standard English and other dialects like AAVE, SAE and many others. The phrase "proper English" is just a prejudicial value judgment that favors Standard English over other types. That prejudice is one of the reasons black people, Southerners, Hispanics and others are looked down as stupid by much of society. People assume the use of certain dialects is an indicator of intelligence, work ethic, et al..

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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the man's language is not that which is coincident with that of the predominant population
    which difference impairs his opportunity for economic advancement
    no matter how much you object to that reality, it remains reality
    You don't know the difference between a language and a dialect. Please educate yourself on basic linguistics before you try to have another conversation about the topic. I can't talk to someone who lacks such basic knowledge.

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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    All three need to be sent to Military School. Teach them discipline that they are either not getting at home. Teach them to be part of something bigger than themselves. Take pride in yourself and others will show you respect. I would say show them team work, but from the video it looks like they got that part figured out.

    This is the best rehab these boys are going to get in my opinion. Otherwise we will likely be paying for them to sit in prison after they do something similar as adults.

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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    kids in my school used to stamp on the new kid in the shower whilst wearing football boots. kids are brutal.
    This is why I don't understand people train of thought here. How many of us growing up saw kids get beat up in school by a group of kids or bullies? Is this the new norm now? You get into a fight and beat another kid up and now you will see jail time?

    Really???

    Is this the best solution with our tax dollars? Throw these kids to the wolves???? Hell Expell their a**es. But don't take their lives away.

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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Really? YOU just implied that he should have expected the beating. That sure sounds like "the white kid started it" to me.
    he should of expected a beating, still doesnt mean he deserved one.
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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    You don't know the difference between a language and a dialect. Please educate yourself on basic linguistics before you try to have another conversation about the topic. I can't talk to someone who lacks such basic knowledge.
    nice diversion. won't work

    the reality is the man uses language which impairs his ability for economic attainment

    your refusal to acknowledge that amplifies what is often found within the black community. the use of ebonics and a refusal to adopt the predominate language of the community handicaps those who find no reason to change their spoken and written language
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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Agreed, so can we focus on the thread topic?
    I agree. We don't need this to turn into yet another 300 page race pissing contest.

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    Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    yes, you have proven that to us


    identifying the race of the involved parties is NOT racist
    but it declines into racism when their ethnicities become the focus of an incident which was not itself the result of racial differences
    So you dont think that Sharpton and the rest of the race mongers would have done an about face and hauled butt back down here had the race roles been reversed?
    Seriously.

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