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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post

    He may have been attempting to convey to the crowd his displeasure with President Obama, but he could have shown it in a much more appropriate way. This wasn't a man trying to be funny. This was a man trying to stir the crowd to anger. This wasn't a man making jokes. This was a man attempting to mock the President of the United States. No matter what he may have thought of his policies or the direction he believes the President is taking the country in, there are better more appropriate ways to be funny yet not be disrespectful of the President of the United States.
    I think he was trying to be funny and was pretty effective, most of the crowd was laughing. Sorry, people don't go to Rodeo's to get mad and angry, an Obama campaign event maybe but not a rodeo. I thought it was funny, I took the joke well.

    If he was trying to mock the President, so what? It's been done since our country started out and I have no doubt as soon as the loser Obama is out of office it will be done again. The Obama administration loves to regulate just about everything. Perhaps you could show everyone where the approved list of jokes or skits against Obama is and who is authorized to tell them? For some reason I don't think the very thin skinned Obama crowd has such a list as their over reaction on everything about the man wouldn't allow it.

    I've been to many rodeo's over the years and have witnessed the rodeo clowns perform the same type skits on all kinds of different people. Laughed everytime. Never once heard a complaint until now. The whining goes beyond the sickness of political correctness. Protecting a proven disaster doesn't make him any less the disaster.

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I wonder how many people have seen the video from the point where the "Obama dummy" is set out to the point where the bull actually comes out? If you haven't you really don't know the full story here. If you have and you're standing behind the "freedom of speech/it was a joke" defense, then you're really not being honest about what actually took place.

    This was not a joke, folks. This was someone who clearly is anti-Obama who thought he was being funny by setting what appeared to be a dummy-figure wearing an Obama mask propped up by a broomstick (conveniently positioned right up his) in the rodeo arena. The announcer introduces the dummy as "Obama" and goes on to ask the crowd if they'd like to see Obama get run down by the bull. What's funny about that?

    It would've been "funny" if the rodeo clown wearing the mask had suddenly come to life and started running around the arena flipping his ears because as we all know and can agree on President Obama does have some big ears. He's even made fun of them himself. It would've been "funny" if the Obama rodeo clown wore an "ObamaCare bullseye" on his butt while teasing the bull to chase him. That atleast would have been in keeping with what rodeo clowns do. But instead what you had was the announcer encouraging the crowd to want to see the figurative President Obama hurt by being run down by a bull.

    That's not funny. It's not even close to exercising free speech. This act was in very poor taste and it doesn't take a Liberal or Conservative/Democrat or Republican to see that. In any case, for those who haven't seen an extended version of the video, you can view it from this website.

    Pretty funny to me. The same skit has been done a million times at rodeo's over the years. the same one. Gets laughs every time because the crowd is smart enough to know the dummy is a dummy. I've seen the 'dummy' be local politicans, state politicians and other people. It always made people laugh, did this time too.

    Until, the Obama sideshow took over.

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    People mocking the President, a fine American tradition. I've always wondered whether it was the same company making all those Presidential Halloween masks or whether there were a couple of companies.

    Having a clown mock the President is in the best tradition of King Lear.

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Funny. I see exactly zero examples of what I asked for.

    Try again.
    How silly. My response was right on point.

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I don't see how you can make this claim? What exactly do you think the rodeo clown was trying to say other than he dislikes (or dare I say hates) Pres. Obama? Frankly, I find it very cowardice for people to hide behind "free speech" when all they've done was show blatant disrespect for the President of the United States no matter who he is or from whatever political party he affiliates.



    To this claim that "liberals" get all butt-hurt whenever anyone from the opposing party challenges a claim of being disrespectful towards "their" President, I think people know bad behavior when they see it. But for the record, I don't consider myself a liberal nor a Democrat although I do identify more with the Democrat Party than I do the Republican Party. I like to think I can see the good and the bad within both parties. I take the better qualities of both and try to shape my ideology around those issues. For example, I don't like the continuous dependency on social programs by some segments of the population, but I can understand how many people would struggle to have their survival needs met without these programs. I think we as a nation can met the needs of those in need without maintaining a revolving door to such benefits. Nevertheless, I call inappropriate behavior what it is no matter what side of the political divide the behavior stems from. For example, when the Iraqi tossed a shoe at GWB during a press conference he held in Iraq, I thought it was disrespectful. Moreover, it was dangerous! What if it had been a knife instead? I may not have liked him much as President, but I certainly didn't want to see him get hurt. And that's where I'm coming from with this clown issue.

    He may have been attempting to convey to the crowd his displeasure with President Obama, but he could have shown it in a much more appropriate way. This wasn't a man trying to be funny. This was a man trying to stir the crowd to anger. This wasn't a man making jokes. This was a man attempting to mock the President of the United States. No matter what he may have thought of his policies or the direction he believes the President is taking the country in, there are better more appropriate ways to be funny yet not be disrespectful of the President of the United States.



    As an aside, between 1976 and 2004 I really wasn't as into politics during that period as I am now. Of course, I had so many other things taking place in my life back then - finishing high school, serving my country on active duty in the Navy, taking care of my young family, etc. But since 2004, I've paid closer attention to the political wrangling of the day, and I must admit I don't like the hyper-partisanship I see every day. I've often wondered why can't a person simple call out a wrong without being labeled a liberal whinny-ass or a conservative blowhard?
    Your point is well taken. But to say that now that Obama is President, because Obama is so special, we should all be civil and proper when referring to him when his own supporters were so uncivil and mean about the previous president? Sorry, but there's too much to pay for first. If people want civility then they should be civil. Obama supporters have never, never been civil, and it doesn't look like they will start any time soon.

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Your point is well taken. But to say that now that Obama is President, because Obama is so special, we should all be civil and proper when referring to him when his own supporters were so uncivil and mean about the previous president? Sorry, but there's too much to pay for first. If people want civility then they should be civil. Obama supporters have never, never been civil, and it doesn't look like they will start any time soon.
    I don't know your media habits....but....if you are one of the Limbaugh-ese, or the Beckians, or the Hannitians....perhaps the treatment of Bush was overblown by folks who get paid big bucks to be outraged on the air.

    I'm 48 years old and never treated a sitting President with the kind of disrespect that the right shows Obama. I've disagreed with policies and ideology.....even poked some good natured fun(which is what this whole clown thing pretty much is) at them....but I've never seen hatred and vitriol like it is now.

    Perhaps with Nixon....but being born in '65, I was too young to experience it.

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Your point is well taken. But to say that now that Obama is President, because Obama is so special, we should all be civil and proper when referring to him when his own supporters were so uncivil and mean about the previous president? Sorry, but there's too much to pay for first. If people want civility then they should be civil. Obama supporters have never, never been civil, and it doesn't look like they will start any time soon.
    It's a fin example of hypocrisy from both sides though. I remember the left mocking Bush claiming freedom of speech and I remember many on the right claiming that the president should be shown respect regardless of what someone thinks of their politics. Now the roles have been reversed as well as the opinions from both sides. Hypocrisy at its finest.

    Me? It's free speech whether I like or or not and therefore what they did to this clown by banning him is completely wrong IMO.

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    I wonder if those labeling people in here in the terms of talk radio entertainers on the right, have a problem with this:

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by Steelplate View Post
    I don't know your media habits....but....if you are one of the Limbaugh-ese, or the Beckians, or the Hannitians....perhaps the treatment of Bush was overblown by folks who get paid big bucks to be outraged on the air.

    I'm 48 years old and never treated a sitting President with the kind of disrespect that the right shows Obama. I've disagreed with policies and ideology.....even poked some good natured fun(which is what this whole clown thing pretty much is) at them....but I've never seen hatred and vitriol like it is now.

    Perhaps with Nixon....but being born in '65, I was too young to experience it.
    If you have never seen "hatred and vitriol like it is now" you were wearing blinders when Bush was President. Simple as that.

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    If you have never seen "hatred and vitriol like it is now" you were wearing blinders when Bush was President. Simple as that.
    Bull....unless you're basing your experience on Political Message Boards, hard left media pundits and Internet trolls photoshopping pictures.

    Bush's second term? There was a lot of valid criticism....but most people still treated him with civility.

    Yes....I saw the pictures of the "haunted house" decorated with effigies of Bush and his administration strung up...and I thought it was ridiculous....and other various crap that I disagreed with.

    I think it's you who has the blinders on.

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