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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by Steelplate View Post
    Ok.....I'm done with you. You can't answer straight up.questions....

    Law? Who said anything about a law?.....you.move the goalposts so.much that you.ought to go to work for some NFL training camp....the Kickers would love you....they.could stand at.one spot and just have you move the crossbars around.

    Apparently SOMEONE found the clown's actions offensive, or else we wouldn't be having this discussion.

    And Don't even START on me about Democracy....when 90+% of the people of this country wanted Toomey/Manchin to pass and your boys took the NRA money and voted it down?
    Yeah who gives a **** about law when you base your pathetic ideas on progressive political correctness...

    You do realize I don't give a **** about political correctness - not that it is NOT politically correct to bash the president...

    Go run away....

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Yeah who gives a **** about law when you base your pathetic ideas on progressive political correctness...

    You do realize I don't give a **** about political correctness - not that it is NOT politically correct to bash the president...

    Go run away....
    C'mon Nick....if it were a McDonald's owner who fired employees for publicly bitching about minimum wage, you would be on the exact opposite side of the argument.

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by Steelplate View Post
    C'mon Nick....if it were a McDonald's owner who fired employees for publicly bitching about minimum wage, you would be on the exact opposite side of the argument.
    And this clown isn't employed by the state/county.....

    Yes you're absolutely correct I would support your assertion however this isn't even close to such a matter and not to mention this isn't my utopia.

    If it even matters -- if a business chose to fire an employee over free speech I would condemn it (I have and I will)...

    There is a difference between fired and banned.

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    And this clown isn't employed by the state/county.....

    Yes you're absolutely correct I would support your assertion however this isn't even close to such a matter and not to mention this isn't my utopia.

    If it even matters -- if a business chose to fire an employee over free speech I would condemn it (I have and I will)...

    There is a difference between fired and banned.
    No...he's employed by the.people that run the Fair.....just like when I play a gig...I am the employee of the owner of the establishment I am performing at for those 2-3 hours.

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by Steelplate View Post
    No...he's employed by the.people that run the Fair.....just like when I play a gig...I am the employee of the owner of the establishment I am performing at for those 2-3 hours.
    Dude you apparently have absolutely no idea how this employment situation works..

    He works for some promotion/production company as an "independent contractor" - in reality he works for himself....

    In reality he is no different than the clown you see on the street corner...

    Not that any of that matters considering the man was BANNED and not fired...

    The man cant go get another job with another promotion company and work in the same park with a DIFFERENT EMPLOYER because HE WAS BANNED....

    Do you not understand what BANNED FROM A PARK MEANS?

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Being fired and blackballed is what you can expect in a Capitalist society that places high value on protecting individual property rights. Employment isn't an entitlement, and if you piss off your boss(es), you get fired. He isn't being put in the stockade, he isn't getting thirty lashes, they aren't cutting his head off, or putting him up against a wall. He just can't work for those particular people anymore. He made a choice, and he chose poorly.

    This is nothing more than a consequence of his actions, and as a result, he has to find a new employer, making this a non-issue.
    That's not how I read it, he was performing as he was told to. The clown association put him up to it.

    http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2013/08/...te-fair-rodeo/

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    The stupidty grows.

    NAACP: DOJ, Secret Service Should Investigate Rodeo Clown

    The fair also receives state funds and we all know what that means.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by Steelplate View Post
    1. Are not the people who run the fair the clown's EMPLOYERS?

    2. If the EMPLOYEE(the clown) engages in activities that the.EMPLOYER finds offensives...does not the EMPLOYER have the right to confront the EMPLOYEE on his actions?
    Here's the thing though, usually those rules are posted somewhere. For this to be anywhere close to being a legitimate ban (which I don't think it is), there would have to be a rule somewhere that says you can't mock a sitting president.

    As far as I know there isn't and this was not a racist act in any sense I'm sorry.

    While I don't believe Obama himself had anything to do with this, the people that did the ban are morons.

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by Steelplate View Post
    Moving the goalposts again, I see.

    I don't compare Obama to Jesus....never have.

    I asked very SPECIFIC questions.

    1. Are not the people who run the fair the clown's EMPLOYERS?

    2. If the EMPLOYEE(the clown) engages in activities that the.EMPLOYER finds offensives...does not the EMPLOYER have the right to confront the EMPLOYEE on his actions?
    The clown os a contractor.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The clown os a contractor.
    True, but if there are standing rules that prevent an act like this (which I don't think there are), it could cause a ban.

    In this situation though, IMO, the banning is not legitimate and I hope this person can sue.

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