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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    This BS against Obama is reaching new lows each day, many times in front of Federally-elected Republican pols. I'm all for the Sedition law as in WW I. Any Dem pol questioning or allowing this talk against Bush/Cheney back in the day would have been RIPped on as unpatriotic. Will Repubs reap what they have sewn?
    I considered Bush to be the worst President of my lifetime and he got plenty of mocking. Did anyone get punished? Maybe they did. Maybe they didn't. But I would have been outraged if someone had mocked Bush and got in actual trouble for it. Piss someone (or many) off? Sure. But punished?

    While I can't say Obama turned out to be the improvement I voted for, at least he's done a couple of things I liked. But I can't believe that someone would get in actual trouble for this. Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush (again) or Obama, people have a right to make fun of them. It's a small price they pay as a public figure that's going to live on our dime for the rest of their lives.

    To me, this isn't about political sides, it's about time-honored freedom of lawful speech.

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by Steelplate View Post
    I know exactly what a rodeo clown does....he keeps the bull from attacking the rider. Do you think I am ignorant? I am and have always been a country boy....tractor pulls, rodeos and horseshoes....don't assume too much about me because I am a pro-labor Democrat. I can shoot a deer at 100 yards in heavy brush...and I can clean, skin and butcher it myself.

    Furthermore....you don't like the way the conversation is going....so you are moving the goalpost. A pro-employer person like yourself ought to be able to figure out that the Employer has the final say on disciplinary matters of employees.

    Lastly, the rodeo clown is a PERFORMER as well as a safety net. He entertains the audience while the rider gets up off his butt and gets to safety and the next rider comes out of the chute.
    If you know what a rodeo clown does then why are you attempting to portray the actions of the clown as within his ability??

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    You actually won me over. Us cat people are pretty smart.

    I do think the talk at Republican townhalls with Congressmen where voters can call Obama everything like a commie and kenyan and then some without being checked is way over the top and may ignite someone to use their 2nd amendment remedy, as so many righties have warned about if they don't win elections.

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    I considered Bush to be the worst President of my lifetime and he got plenty of mocking. Did anyone get punished? Maybe they did. Maybe they didn't. But I would have been outraged if someone had mocked Bush and got in actual trouble for it. Piss someone (or many) off? Sure. But punished?

    While I can't say Obama turned out to be the improvement I voted for, at least he's done a couple of things I liked. But I can't believe that someone would get in actual trouble for this. Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush (again) or Obama, people have a right to make fun of them. It's a small price they pay as a public figure that's going to live on our dime for the rest of their lives.

    To me, this isn't about political sides, it's about time-honored freedom of lawful speech.

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    I considered Bush to be the worst President of my lifetime and he got plenty of mocking. Did anyone get punished? Maybe they did. Maybe they didn't. But I would have been outraged if someone had mocked Bush and got in actual trouble for it. Piss someone (or many) off? Sure. But punished?

    While I can't say Obama turned out to be the improvement I voted for, at least he's done a couple of things I liked. But I can't believe that someone would get in actual trouble for this. Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush (again) or Obama, people have a right to make fun of them. It's a small price they pay as a public figure that's going to live on our dime for the rest of their lives.

    To me, this isn't about political sides, it's about time-honored freedom of lawful speech.
    I never liked Bush myself but if you cant acknowledge how ****ed up our present economy is and how ****ed up our society is and how ****ed up our government is then all I have to say is holy ****...

    The only people I could possibly see believing that Obama is a good president are those living for free - weather it's government grants, student loans, welfare, food stamps or whatever he gives you presently FOR FREE...

    In the real world when you're not getting free **** from your government - IT ****ING SUCKS - because your free money has to come from somewhere....

    Guys like me are being discriminated against and are forced to pay for your FREE ****...

    I don't see too many individuals satisfied with higher taxes, more laws, more regulations just so losers can live for free while they study "Obama philosophy" on government grants and live like they would have in their parents basement reading "Dreams From My Father."

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    If you know what a rodeo clown does then why are you attempting to portray the actions of the clown as within his ability??
    Wait.....what? Would you like to rephrase that? I don't know what you are getting at.

    Let's take it back to Jesus....since this happened in Missouri....one of the bread basket States of the Bible belt....

    If this guy dressed up as Jesus...and did the same thing. Why shouldn't he be told about his actions?

    Because, you and I are almost in agreement here.

    1. Is the rodeo clown an employee of the fair?

    2. Does not the Employers of the clown have the right to determine what is and is not appropriate?

    3. If the clown chooses to wing it and do whatever he wants to without the prior approval of his employer....does he not have to answer for his actions....if his employers find his actions offensives?

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    You actually won me over. Us cat people are pretty smart.

    I do think the talk at Republican townhalls with Congressmen where voters can call Obama everything like a commie and kenyan and then some without being checked is way over the top and may ignite someone to use their 2nd amendment remedy, as so many righties have warned about if they don't win elections.
    If even 10% of the crap I see posted on the internet were true, the world would already have ended. They promise me doom, I get all excited, and then it's just another day in the life.

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by Steelplate View Post
    Wait.....what? Would you like to rephrase that? I don't know what you are getting at.

    Let's take it back to Jesus....since this happened in Missouri....one of the bread basket States of the Bible belt....

    If this guy dressed up as Jesus...and did the same thing. Why shouldn't he be told about his actions?

    Because, you and I are almost in agreement here.

    1. Is the rodeo clown an employee of the fair?

    2. Does not the Employers of the clown have the right to determine what is and is not appropriate?

    3. If the clown chooses to wing it and do whatever he wants to without the prior approval of his employer....does he not have to answer for his actions....if his employers find his actions offensives?
    No I don't wish to rephrase anything....

    Who give a **** about his attire???

    Last time I checked Jesus wasn't dictating congress and talking **** as a mortal tyrant.

    Funny how you progressives continually compare Obama to Jesus - in disgusting fashion I might add.

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    No I don't wish to rephrase anything....

    Who give a **** about his attire???

    Last time I checked Jesus wasn't dictating congress and talking **** as a mortal tyrant.

    Funny how you progressives continually compare Obama to Jesus - in disgusting fashion I might add.
    Moving the goalposts again, I see.

    I don't compare Obama to Jesus....never have.

    I asked very SPECIFIC questions.

    1. Are not the people who run the fair the clown's EMPLOYERS?

    2. If the EMPLOYEE(the clown) engages in activities that the.EMPLOYER finds offensives...does not the EMPLOYER have the right to confront the EMPLOYEE on his actions?

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by Steelplate View Post
    Moving the goalposts again, I see.

    I don't compare Obama to Jesus....never have.

    I asked very SPECIFIC questions.

    1. Are not the people who run the fair the clown's EMPLOYERS?

    2. If the EMPLOYEE(the clown) engages in activities that the.EMPLOYER finds offensives...does not the EMPLOYER have the right to confront the EMPLOYEE on his actions?
    You just did compare Obama to Jesus.....

    1. Rodeo clowns are no more employees than union members are employees of a specific company (yes I learned today there is - as funny as it sounds - a rodeo clown union)..

    2. No one found the clowns actions "offensive" until some bitch ass mark progressives started talking ****... Of course the republicans had to apologize like the ****ing cowards they are... DESPITE THE FACT THE CROWED OVERWHELMINGLY APPROVED OF THE CLOWN..... Of course progressives are offended by democracy - like I give a ****...

    How about (3) There was nothing barring the clown from doing what he wants???? GET IT??? Show me a ****ing law that says a rodeo clown cant put on a presidents mask and run around a bull...

    You're so ****ing out of line...

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    re: Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    You just did compare Obama to Jesus.....

    1. They're no more employees than union members are employees of a specific company (yes I learned today there is - as funny as it sounds - a rodeo clown union)..

    2. No one found the clowns actions "offensive" until some bitch ass mark progressives started talking ****... Of course the republicans had to apologize like the ****ing cowards they are... DESPITE THE FACT THE CROWED OVERWHELMINGLY APPROVED OF THE CLOWN..... Of course progressives are offended by democracy - like I give a ****...

    How about (3) There was nothing barring the clown from doing what he wants???? GET IT??? Show me a ****ing law that says a rodeo clown cant put on a presidents mask and run around a bull...

    You're so ****ing out of line...
    Ok.....I'm done with you. You can't answer straight up.questions....

    Law? Who said anything about a law?.....you.move the goalposts so.much that you.ought to go to work for some NFL training camp....the Kickers would love you....they.could stand at.one spot and just have you move the crossbars around.

    Apparently SOMEONE found the clown's actions offensive, or else we wouldn't be having this discussion.

    And Don't even START on me about Democracy....when 90+% of the people of this country wanted Toomey/Manchin to pass and your boys took the NRA money and voted it down?

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