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Why Hillary Clinton is going after voter ID laws?

I didn't post that it was fraudulent. I just believe that we, as a country, have established a voting day and it should be observed. A lot can happen in the three to four weeks before an election. It could be a 24 hour period to accommodate all work schedules...

Good evening, AP. :2wave:

:agree: Maybe it's just me, but I have found that the busiest people always find time to vote, and don't need a four-week window to do so! I realize that there are many who can't vote on Election Day...business travel, vacation, scheduled surgery, and so forth...but that's why I thought they allowed absentee mail-in ballots. And if it's convenient to vote early, what makes it inconvenient to vote on Voting Day? :?:
 
They were caught... NOT A PROBLEM! LOL!

And just to add some context (from a more reputable source)...

Voter ID laws: A state-by-state map reveals how much voter fraud there is in the United States—almost none. - Slate Magazine

That is how much voter fraud was both detected and successfully prosecuted. Much like saying that Chicago has no homicide problem citing only the number of murder convictions after excluding the "unsolved" body count.

Philly Election Officials Take Up GOP Complaints « CBS Philly
 
Good evening, AP. :2wave:

:agree: Maybe it's just me, but I have found that the busiest people always find time to vote, and don't need a four-week window to do so! I realize that there are many who can't vote on Election Day...business travel, vacation, scheduled surgery, and so forth...but that's why I thought they allowed absentee mail-in ballots. And if it's convenient to vote early, what makes it inconvenient to vote on Voting Day? :?:

Good evening pg...

Having to adhere to a one day voting period would tax the bus systems of both parties... :mrgreen:
 
The voter ID laws primarily affect minorities and the elderly.

Nice work there, Skippy, supplying the standard, and well rehearsed, answer but to the wrong question. The post to which you replied addressed the changing of polling hours/days, not the use of IDs.
 
But there has been little to no cases of voter fraud. How do we depend on something that does not exist?

Yeah right, that is what you progressives continually tell yourselves..... ACORN was disenfranchised for a reason you know... Oh, if it matters I'm from the land of voter fraud - Chicago.

So don't even try to tell me about anything...

I'm sure the typical rural or "suburban farm boy" finds what I have to say far fetched but you can bet your corn that it's absolutely fact and our government is absolutely this ****ed up....
 
You are INCORRECT about [the fact] what she alluded to wasn't about race. That's exactly what she was throwing out and will continue to be one of her platforms for her POTUS run. Count on it.

Sorry, did I get her IDENTITY wrong. Maybe she's just a mere Liberal who doesn't reach the level of Progressive? How would I know?

Let's just go with "statist", it's too much of a bother sorting out communists, socialists, Marxist, etc... They all want the same thing. Control and suppression of the people.

Now, what does Hillary care about, and the democrats?
First, they couldn't give a hoot about voter ID laws.
They know there will be almost no one that can legally vote that will not be able to vote because of these laws. Their concern is that those that are not eligible to vote won't be able to cast votes for democrats. That is it. It goes no further than that. You are a fool if you come on here and argue that they are concerned with the poor not being able to vote.
 
92-Year-Old Who Once Faced Literacy Tests Sues North Carolina Over New Wave Of Voter Suppression | ThinkProgress

When Rosanell Eaton was 21 years old and living in segregated North Carolina, she became one of the first African Americans in her county registered to vote, after successfully completing a literacy test that required her to recite the preamble to the Constitution. But now, at 92 years old, she faces new obstacles under the voter suppression law signed by Gov. Pat McCrory (R) Monday. For one thing, she may not qualify for the voter ID card required under the new law, because the name on her birth certificate is different from the name on her driver’s license and voter registration card. Reconciling this difference will be a costly and time-consuming administrative endeavor. For another, she has participated in early voting since it was instituted in the state. Now, it’s been cut back a week.

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And suing the state of North Carolina is not? Wouldn't it be far simpler for her to correct her name, which she will have to do anyway?
 
She can still vote early, and she doesn't need a photo ID until the 2016 election. Should be enough time, don't you think?

And suing the state of North Carolina is not? Wouldn't it be far simpler for her to correct her name, which she will have to do anyway?
She is a registered voter in the state of North Carolina who has a history of voting in the state, she should not be required to do anything other than what she has always done which is to sign her name when she votes.
 
She is a registered voter in the state of North Carolina who has a history of voting in the state, she should not be required to do anything other than what she has always done which is to sign her name when she votes.
I feel for her, but she will have to comply with the law. Everyone else will have to. Those filing suit on her behalf should be easily able to assist her in correcting her documents.
 
I feel for her, but she will have to comply with the law. Everyone else will have to. Those filing suit on her behalf should be easily able to assist her in correcting her documents.
You feel for her? I seriously doubt that.
 
You feel for her? I seriously doubt that.
Her history is compelling. Why would you doubt that of anyone regarding this? I would gladly offer her a dispensation, but our laws don't work like that, and for good reason. I bet that if the situation was explained to her as a matter of equal treatment, she would agree too.
 
Yeah right, that is what you progressives continually tell yourselves..... ACORN was disenfranchised for a reason you know... Oh, if it matters I'm from the land of voter fraud - Chicago.

So don't even try to tell me about anything...

I'm sure the typical rural or "suburban farm boy" finds what I have to say far fetched but you can bet your corn that it's absolutely fact and our government is absolutely this ****ed up....

I don't debate people base on word of mouth. Show me some facts that voter fraud is a big thing in not only in Chicago but anywhere else and then we have a actual debate.
 
You feel for her? I seriously doubt that.

Why do you doubt that?

In fact the Left is trying to use this poor women for political gain in an attempt to sidetrack voter ID. You know it and I know it so pretending others lack feeling is just another leftist jab that has never had any basis in reality.

You may as well go back to the leftist tactic of calling those who disagree with you 'racist', 'fascist'. etc. It's all the same hooey.
 
Because in your mind you hate blacks. I didn't say they were the only ones. But blacks and the elderly overwhelmingly are early voters and they vote for democrats.

Its called Souls to the Polls. African Americans often go to church on Sunday then turn out to the polls in huge numbers. These are the folks that these NC politicians are trying to keep from making a difference.
 
The voter ID laws being passed in conservative red states with large black populations are based on race. Everybody knows it and everybody knows the conservatives deny it, including the conservatives denying it.

“I’m going to be real honest with you,” Tea Party leader Ken Emanuelson said at a Dallas County Republican Party event on May 20. “The Republican Party doesn’t want black people to vote if they are going to vote 9-to-1 for Democrats.”


“What I meant, and should have said, is that it is not, in my personal opinion, in the interests of the Republican Party to spend its own time and energy working to generally increase the number of Democratic voters at the polls, and at this point in time, nine of every ten African American voters cast their votes for the Democratic Party,” he wrote.

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But it is clearly in the interest of the Republican Party to keep them from voting.
 
Let's just go with "statist", it's too much of a bother sorting out communists, socialists, Marxist, etc... They all want the same thing. Control and suppression of the people.

Now, what does Hillary care about, and the democrats?
First, they couldn't give a hoot about voter ID laws.
They know there will be almost no one that can legally vote that will not be able to vote because of these laws. Their concern is that those that are not eligible to vote won't be able to cast votes for democrats. That is it. It goes no further than that. You are a fool if you come on here and argue that they are concerned with the poor not being able to vote.

Horse****. The Republicans want to make sure as few poor people as possible vote. So they're willing to take a Big Government solution that doesn't even solve the problem it allegedly is supposed to address. Of the voter fraud that occurs, the vast majority wont be stopped by voter ID laws. Wonder why the righties aren't going after absentee ballots, where the majority of fraud occurs?

Oh, because absentee ballots swing a bit to the right.
 
Its called Souls to the Polls. African Americans often go to church on Sunday then turn out to the polls in huge numbers. These are the folks that these NC politicians are trying to keep from making a difference.

Are you making the claim that people who go to Church on Sunday, and there are millions of them, won't be able to vote?
 
They used to vote on this last Sunday before the election. We know the game. It cost you the last election. Just more mind games by repups to use the old Nixon strategy of make it as a negative as you can. Drive up the negatives on Dems, as we see with Mrs. Clinton right now.
Are you making the claim that people who go to Church on Sunday, and there are millions of them, won't be able to vote?
 
They swing a whole hot to the fright-wing. We know the repups were recruiting in Florida nursing homes where the good folks had extreme Alzheimer's.
Horse****. The Republicans want to make sure as few poor people as possible vote. So they're willing to take a Big Government solution that doesn't even solve the problem it allegedly is supposed to address. Of the voter fraud that occurs, the vast majority wont be stopped by voter ID laws. Wonder why the righties aren't going after absentee ballots, where the majority of fraud occurs?

Oh, because absentee ballots swing a bit to the right.
 
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