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    Re: Why Hillary Clinton is going after voter ID laws?

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    yes racial discrimination it is a problem but so is voter fraud, but democrats need to keep the false narrative of rapid racial discrimination alive so to use it as a wedge issue against republicans just like the false narrative they created with the BS war on women
    Voter fraud is not a problem.

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    Re: Why Hillary Clinton is going after voter ID laws?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Show where that is the case (only DL accepted as ID) in ANY state. You can't because it quite simply is not true.
    Sorry I should have government issued ID which for most people is a drivers license. So sue me.

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    Re: Why Hillary Clinton is going after voter ID laws?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Show where that is the case (only DL accepted as ID) in ANY state. You can't because it quite simply is not true.
    Why should a person who has voted for 40 or 50 years be denied the right to vote simply because they don't have an approved id? Here in Oregon, the only thing required is your signature. The penalty for forgery is a stiff fine and the possibility of jail time.


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    Re: Why Hillary Clinton is going after voter ID laws?

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    You said "wealthy minorities". It stands to reason you meant the top 1%.
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    Re: Why Hillary Clinton is going after voter ID laws?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Why should a person who has voted for 40 or 50 years be denied the right to vote simply because they don't have an approved id? Here in Oregon, the only thing required is your signature. The penalty for forgery is a stiff fine and the possibility of jail time.
    I've lived here in Oregon since the 70s, I know how easy it is to vote here since we passed vote by mail. In case you haven't had to go for renewel yet, you might be surprised. You now have to provide state approved photo ID when registering. In addition, you must provide a birth cert or other approved docs to get or renew that state approved ID.

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    Re: Why Hillary Clinton is going after voter ID laws?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Sorry I should have government issued ID which for most people is a drivers license. So sue me.
    No need to sue, you took the stance you took and the truth of it is there for all to see. State ID is free to those who cannot afford it and is available to even the poorest and most elderly.

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    Re: Why Hillary Clinton is going after voter ID laws?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Voter fraud is not a problem.
    Unless a conservative does it.

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    Re: Why Hillary Clinton is going after voter ID laws?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    The voter ID laws being passed in conservative red states with large black populations are based on race. Everybody knows it and everybody knows the conservatives deny it, including the conservatives denying it.
    No, everybody doesn't know it.

    Some people are so conditioned to see nearly everything through race, gender or sexual orientation it clouds their thinking on nearly every issue.

    Early voting costs taxpayers extra, shortens the campaign when key issues can and are brought up in the final days (not to mention deaths of some running for office) and is a distraction from the main event. It should be done away with all together. If you can't make it on election day, vote absentee ballot. Completely fair for everybody.

    I can hear the whines now. The lines are to long. Well, vote a competent person in as supervisor of elections in your county (probably means not voting for a democrat).

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    Re: Why Hillary Clinton is going after voter ID laws?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I guess the statistics show that it is democrats that overwhelmingly vote early in conservative red states. From that, it doesn't take genius to figure out that the voter ID laws eliminating early voting is aimed at democrats. And Blacks overwhelmingly vote democrat in conservative states. Take N. Carolina for example...

    Almost 50% of democrats in N. Carolina vote early compared to 30% of republicans. Of those Democrat early voters almost 30% were black.

    United States Elections Project


    Every state seems to have a different criteria for voter ID. For example, some red states will only accept a valid drivers license. But a lot of the elderly don't drive or can't get drivers licenses.


    Link to that?

    Not in Texas, a big red state. The ID costs $6.

    TxDPS - Apply for an Identification (ID) Card

    What kind of identification will be required to qualify to vote in person under the new program?

    A voter will be required to show one of the following forms of photo identification at the polling location before the voter will be permitted to cast a vote.

    Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS)
    Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS
    Texas personal identification card issued by DPS
    Texas concealed handgun license issued by DPS
    United States military identification card containing the personís photograph
    United States citizenship certificate containing the personís photograph
    United States passport
    VoteTexas.gov Ľ Need ID?

    Any American citizen has ample opportunity to vote. The distortion that those not on the left wanting to prevent people from voting is absurd. Want to vote, prove who you claim to be, there are a number of ways to do that.

    BTW you also don't need an ID to vote by ballot.
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    Re: Why Hillary Clinton is going after voter ID laws?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I've lived here in Oregon since the 70s, I know how easy it is to vote here since we passed vote by mail. In case you haven't had to go for renewel yet, you might be surprised. You now have to provide state approved photo ID when registering. In addition, you must provide a birth cert or other approved docs to get or renew that state approved ID.
    We've lived in Oregon since 1972. I don't believe a photo-id is required when registering, but in order to renew my driver license I needed to order a birth certificate from New York State. I think it cost me $50. When voting your signature is the important thing, forget the signature and your vote doesn't count.


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