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    Re: U.S. Expats Balk at Tax Law

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    BTW "Croats" was apparently what my auto correct thought I meant by "Expats"
    "Croats" is at least better than "Groats". Gotta give the program credit for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Which they should be as well.
    So nobody that is not a U.S. citizen should ever be able to step foot on U.S. soil for any reason, with or without a visa? Seriously?
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    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Yeah, the law is a pain in the butt. But so is that $500 BILLION in unpaid taxes every year. We're all paying more taxes or having a higher deficit because people are evading taxation.
    ...which is another great argument for why this is more about class warfare and pandering for votes than it is about recovering lost tax revenue.

    Best estimates so far is that when all is said and done, this "pain in the butt" legislation will recover 1/10th of 1% of our yearly unpaid tax bill. Of course, you wouldn't know that from all this talk of rich people hiding mountains of wealth in offshore bank accounts. If the Dems wanted to recover tax revenue, they'd be cracking down on middle and upper-middle class citizens stateside.

    But again, this is all about votes, not money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    It would help if you understood the topic. Sangha just burned you good, it's also funny that you don't get why.

    Here's a hint: You post an article that bashes the legislation. Then Sangha asks you if you support it while referencing that the majority of those who this affects enough to leave are the 1%.

    So more or less put you between siding with people who have lots of money and lots of money to hide (as evident by the numerous scandals of people evading taxation illegally by using foreign accounts and not disclosing them) or disowning your own argument.

    Somehow, I don't think you understand how you're being beaten here. And by Sangha.
    What is wrong with siding with people that have money?

    Has the Obama administration so badly warped you mind as to think those people are evil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    The giving Uncle Sam the finger part was the relevant part. Most people that work outside the States are very individualistic. They don't like being bugged and that's why they hate that law and I believe with good reason. Most of them pay their taxes but they get audited a lot more and its much more hassle to do the taxes. I can see why they give Uncle Sammy baby the finger.
    Why would somebody living and working outside the borders of the US owe taxes to the US?

    The money was made in the other country and the taxes were paid to the other country, so why would that income be taxed twice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Why would somebody living and working outside the borders of the US owe taxes to the US?

    The money was made in the other country and the taxes were paid to the other country, so why would that income be taxed twice?
    Because if you are a citizen of the U.S., you also pay income taxes here, regardless of where that income is earned. Uncle Sam gets their cut, even if you haven't stepped foot in the country for 20 years.
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    Re: U.S. Expats Balk at Tax Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    So nobody that is not a U.S. citizen should ever be able to step foot on U.S. soil for any reason, with or without a visa? Seriously?
    Only if they are intending to become a US Citizen. In which case they would have to prove they are capable of adding to the society not taking from it. It would also mean breaking ALL ties with their former nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Because if you are a citizen of the U.S., you also pay income taxes here, regardless of where that income is earned. Uncle Sam gets their cut, even if you haven't stepped foot in the country for 20 years.
    That is exactly why people look for ways to avoid those taxes.

    When something is blatently unfair, it is not wrong to not pay it.

    The US has no claim on any monies made and used outside the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Only if they are intending to become a US Citizen. In which case they would have to prove they are capable of adding to the society not taking from it. It would also mean breaking ALL ties with their former nation.
    So all tourism is ended?

    I don't think Disney would be too happy about that. They get a ton of world travelers at their parks.

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    Re: U.S. Expats Balk at Tax Law

    Why not just violate immigration laws and live as an illegal alien? It works for 12 million or so poor people? I'm sure it will work fine for the rich. Afterall our nation has shown immigration laws don't matter, rules don't matter, we just give amnesty to them!

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